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iceman16 wrote:

Mac

I dont know where to start but this is a keeper! Smile

 

I never thought it would be anything else :grin:  Wink

I have had mine nearly 10 years now and I can tell you that nothing else of any make or type even comes close Smile

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Hope you received the XLR's today Iceman.

Give us an update as soon as you can.

Mac

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Hope you received the XLR's today Iceman.

Give us an update as soon as you can.

Mac

Hi Mac

Yes..just received them this morning. There were two pairs sent to me (Chord anthem2 and MIT avt proline). I finally settled down to the MIT cause they sounded more natural and balanced.

 

The difference bet. rca and balanced xlr is really noticeable. More headroom and the dynamics and soundstage is just staggering. The EMC 1Up plays music with total control even at higher volume level. There's no hint of brightness and the fluidity and finesse of the vocals makes me wonder if there are valves or tubes inside the machine.

The bass is rock solid but controlled in a right manner and does'nt overwhelm. The EMC 1UP does'nt shout at you and with less sibilance compared to the Naim cdx2 I used to own. My speakers just sound as the way I like which I never thought they will. The first cd I played was Acoustic Alchemy(the best of) and the timbre of each instrument was jaw-dropping lifelike. Followed by Diana Krall's (frim fram sauce) where She's like singing in front of me while Im sipping a glass of wine.

From jazz to metal..the EMC 1UP did'nt dissappointrockin out

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Macspur wrote:

Hope you received the XLR's today Iceman.

Give us an update as soon as you can.

Mac

Hi Mac

Yes..just received them this morning. There were two pairs sent to me (Chord anthem2 and MIT avt proline). I finally settled down to the MIT cause they sounded more natural and balanced.

 

The difference bet. rca and balanced xlr is really noticeable. More headroom and the dynamics and soundstage is just staggering. The EMC 1Up plays music with total control even at higher volume level. There's no hint of brightness and the fluidity and finesse of the vocals makes me wonder if there are valves or tubes inside the machine.

The bass is rock solid but controlled in a right manner and does'nt overwhelm. The EMC 1UP does'nt shout at you and with less sibilance compared to the Naim cdx2 I used to own. My speakers just sound as the way I like which I never thought they will. The first cd I played was Acoustic Alchemy(the best of) and the timbre of each instrument was jaw-dropping lifelike. Followed by Diana Krall's (frim fram sauce) where She's like singing in front of me while Im sipping a glass of wine.

From jazz to metal..the EMC 1UP did'nt dissappointrockin out

Funny enough, I had a CDX2 myself, before the EMC1UP and you've described the difference spot on.

 It replays music with such natural timbre, whereas the Naim could come across quite harsh and digital in comparison.

 

Personally, I can't see myself changing players for years to come.

I wouldn't go back to using RCA between CDP and amp... the difference is incredible... I will check out the MIT XLR's.

Enjoy!

Mac

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Hi Cno I hope when you read this your op will be well behind you and that you will be on the  mend best wishes TM:)  Smile

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I just had to comment on MIT cables.  Just got a pair of the CVT balanced interconnects for my DAC to amp connection.  I'm using with Matrix 28 speaker cable. I'm sold on MIT. Spectacular on low level detail and timbre reproduction. And I can turn the volume up too!

i am using a rather inexpensive Cambridge 350C as a transport and appreciate your observations on the Naim and Electrocompaniet.  It may be with the right CDP I would not need the DAC. 

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Just bought a pair of MIT AVt MA speaker cables. I'll post my thoughts tomorrow.  Smile

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Nice thread is becoming...also been very impressed when we used the EC cd player for Rob's demo of Avalon Smile

Cno, glad you are back and sorry for not wishing you good luck before but I have been far a little bit from hi-fi scene as a few little problems to fix!

 

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acalex wrote:

Cno, glad you are back and sorry for not wishing you good luck before but I have been far a little bit from hi-fi scene as a few little problems to fix!

Alex my friend, I took that "as read".

@Iceman
Your clever choices and attention to detail has bagged you a truly wonderful system. The only possible area for improvement are the speakers...Avalon or Utiopia range!! shifty

Nb. Don't pay any heed, as I'm on heavy medication!!

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Hi Cno,

I hope you're feeling better. Btw Im still quite happy with my speakers. In fact there's a lot of changes or I may say improvement since I bought the EMC 1Up and MIT cables. If in case I'll get some Utopias..I'll pass the Diablos. I heard them at my local dealer and it seems they lack some lower end for my liking.

 

I almost bought the Ascendant but the seller withdrawn and Im still waiting for his upgrade to Eidolon's. Smile

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Don't say that about the Diablos!!! >)

I listened to the Electra 1028be when I was deciding on my purchase & there was a significant diffence in the bottom end. However putting them side by side there was also a significant difference in SQ to my ears. The electras sounded bigger but more boxy, the extra detail the Diablos found was amazing. But this came at a trade off in the bottom end & may not be to eveyones liking.

My old man who is a trained sound engineer came over for a listen. He picked them straight away, "they are rolling off at around 40hz". Not his cup of tea either. I told him that his ears were going cause he was old & he couldn't hear the refined detail in the upper/mid range!!!

Still though, I do miss that bottom end sometimes! just have to buy more sub woofers!!! excellent!

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Hi Cno,

welcome back, trust everything went OK & that you're on the road to a speedy recovery. Beer

Went against my previous statement of not changing cables too quickly! rolling on the floor laughing like that was ever to going to happen!

1) The Beresford switching box arrived last week so got that set-up over the weekend. Had contacted Stanley Beresford to get the specs & he said that the unit was rated to 250w per channel, so no dramas there. Got to say it works a treat, does exactly what I need it to & makes things generally wife friendly. I was able to discern no loss in SQ, but given that it took me a while to set it all up I couldn't really do any immediate side by side testing. Waiting on some more banana plugs to arrive which may speed up the process. As mentioned previously I'm only using generic copper cables at the moment, so if I do invest in something more expensive I'll try using them with & without the box in place.

As a note I did try running the AV amp into the 35P with RCA cables but couldn't get it to work. Not sure exactly what the issue was, most likely installer/user error. Maybe the 35p doesn't like having two sets of inputs & defaults to XLR if there are leads in place. This doesn't seem right but I couldn't find anything in the instruction manual about it & given past experience I didn't want to experiment too much. Will research this a bit more before trying again, but given that the switch box works so well I probably won't use it. Prefer the idea of keeping the two systems as separate as possible & not having the 35p switched on more than is necessary.

2) Placed two pairs of Atlas Mavros XLR cables into the sytem, so fully balanced from amp to source now. There was a marked improvement. For a start everything was just about completely silent when no signal was being played (the RCAs did have a level of hiss). Then there was the extra detail in voices & separation in instruments. I feel that they really allow the akurate to reveal its full potential.

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It never came in to my mind getting a subwoofer in listening to 2 ch. ever:)

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Neuphonix wrote:

As a note I did try running the AV amp into the 35P with RCA cables but couldn't get it to work. Not sure exactly what the issue was, most likely installer/user error. Maybe the 35p doesn't like having two sets of inputs & defaults to XLR if there are leads in place. This doesn't seem right but I couldn't find anything in the instruction manual about it & given past experience I didn't want to experiment too much. Will research this a bit more before trying again, but given that the switch box works so well I probably won't use it. Prefer the idea of keeping the two systems as separate as possible & not having the 35p switched on more than is necessary.

My 35i has a "Balanced Input" button beside the "CD" and "Aux...so there might be a button somewhere to allow the Balanced section to work...but that's a complete guess. Your dealer should be able to assist.

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2) Placed two pairs of Atlas Mavros XLR cables into the sytem, so fully balanced from amp to source now. There was a marked improvement. For a start everything was just about completely silent when no signal was being played (the RCAs did have a level of hiss). Then there was the extra detail in voices & separation in instruments. I feel that they really allow the akurate to reveal its full potential.

You can try the next one down - The Ascent - to see if the Mavros is worth the extra. You will only really see what the Mavros can do, when the S/Cs are in place.

The EOS P/C is also worth trying.

If I can't spend my money, spending yours is the next best thing!!

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Don't knock it till you try it! I know that there are many audiophiles out there who will poopoo the idea but there are believers.

Indeed one of the reviews I read about the 35i before purchasing had the reviewer doing exactly that.

http://www.soundstagehifi.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&...

He did mention that the 35i sent a pulse through the subs when he turned the unit on, so you had to watch out. Also it seemed to be a given that the quality of the sub was up to the job both in terms of musicaliy & the ability to tune it so that they integrate well with the speakers.

One of the reviews I read about the Diablos mentioned that when paired with a good set of subs they would match a speaker kit far far above their price range:

http://hometheaterreview.com/focal-diablo-utopia-speakers-reviewed/

At the moment I have one of these beauties:

http://www.jlaudio.com/f110-satin-home-audio-fathom-powered-subwoofers-9...

& eventually plan to add one more. A little beastie of a thing that outputs some pretty serious bottom end for its size.

I had originally planned to run them both from the 35i, unfortunately however the 35p does not have any outputs so I may never get to find out how good they could sound with the Diablos in a hifi arrangement. The primo does have RCA out as well as XLR so I may be able to use both. But I think that there is a switch that allows you to use one or the other, not both simultaneously.