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My budget KEF Reference addition just after xmas.....

 

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My budget KEF Reference addition just after xmas.....

 

They make a magnificent addition to the thread.

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I've had a pair of Ref 2.2's in Rose Burr for about 6yrs now... No chance of changing, I have always loved them with my choice of music.

More so now I recently upgraded the 8000A with a Tag 60i and 60p combo, wow, what a difference.

Clearly the 8000A was underpowering the 2.2's for years but I hadn't bothered doing anything about it ( kids do that to the senses and the wallet!)

 

They are very different now, tighter bass, far more central vocals and, to me, overall, they "sing".

The wife simply explained it as only she could... "I want to listen to it louder now"

 

 

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I've had a pair of Ref 2.2's in Rose Burr for about 6yrs now... No chance of changing, I have always loved them with my choice of music.

More so now I recently upgraded the 8000A with a Tag 60i and 60p combo, wow, what a difference.

Clearly the 8000A was underpowering the 2.2's for years but I hadn't bothered doing anything about it ( kids do that to the senses and the wallet!)

 

They are very different now, tighter bass, far more central vocals and, to me, overall, they "sing".

The wife simply explained it as only she could... "I want to listen to it louder now"

Great job....glad you are now getting more out of them.

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hoopsontoast wrote:

My budget KEF Reference addition just after xmas.....

 

 

They make a magnificent addition to the thread.

They had been on my long term to do list (along with the Magnepan MMG's) so found a pair at a bargain price. Had heard the 203/2 and 205/2 quite a bit along with the 207/2 a couple of times which always impressed. The 205/2 are still my reference for speaker soundstage in terms of precision and imaging. The MMG's/Quad 57's I feel are a fair bit better in other areas, soundstage height/size to name one.

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They had been on my long term to do list (along with the Magnepan MMG's) so found a pair at a bargain price. Had heard the 203/2 and 205/2 quite a bit along with the 207/2 a couple of times which always impressed. The 205/2 are still my reference for speaker soundstage in terms of precision and imaging. The MMG's/Quad 57's I feel are a fair bit better in other areas, soundstage height/size to name one.

I really wanted to get the 203/2s. but after hearing the 205/2s, I couldn't go back (I think they are the sweet spot in the range).

The 207/2s are magnificent, but are pretty expensive, need impressive amplification and a very big room.....the 205/2s give a good taste of it for a lot less.

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Stupid question on Cardas jumper cables:  standard has spades on both ends.  With Kef reference can you use that ?  I took a look at the speaker terminals and seems that they are designed to use spade on one side and banana, not spades in and out.

I am keen to give them a try Smile

 

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Stupid question on Cardas jumper cables:  standard has spades on both ends.  With Kef reference can you use that ?  I took a look at the speaker terminals and seems that they are designed to use spade on one side and banana, not spades in and out.

I am keen to give them a try Smile

I would assume so, but it would be worth double checking (email Brian Von Bork at Cardas)..........my Cardas are Tri-Wired, so I don't use their jumpers. 

http://www.cardas.com/support.php

Nb. You can get the Cardas jumper cables with bananas as well, and probably mixed if you ask.

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Thanks for the quick response, following up with the dealer...

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How are you getting on and have you come to a decision......did you get the links, and did they make a difference?

 

Back into hifi world after a break - Best deal I can get on 2.5m GR cable is equivalent to 1200 GBP (they are ex-demo).  I am tempted, as I like what they do.  Wondering whether I should get them to redo the termination to tri-wire, which would resolve the jumper question.  Any thoughts ?

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How are you getting on and have you come to a decision......did you get the links, and did they make a difference?

 

Back into hifi world after a break - Best deal I can get on 2.5m GR cable is equivalent to 1200 GBP (they are ex-demo).  I am tempted, as I like what they do.  Wondering whether I should get them to redo the termination to tri-wire, which would resolve the jumper question.  Any thoughts ?

It's the best way to go provided the cost isn't prohibitively more than the links......I ordered mine that way (Tri-wired with CABD banana plugs).

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How are you getting on and have you come to a decision......did you get the links, and did they make a difference?

 

Tri-wiring was not a practical option cost wise, so went ahead and got Cardas jumper cables this week-end.  Bought them as cost was reasonable.  Not sure if they make a difference yet, but they look very solid Smile

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How are you getting on and have you come to a decision......did you get the links, and did they make a difference?

Tri-wiring was not a practical option cost wise, so went ahead and got Cardas jumper cables this week-end.  Bought them as cost was reasonable.  Not sure if they make a difference yet, but they look very solid Smile

Glad you got sorted.

It can be worth experimenting with where you put the links.....ie. changing round the connections (if you can be bothered).

Here is some insight  (from 4th para down under "Setup"): http://www.ultraaudio.com/equipment/kef_reference_203_2.htm

Keep in touch, and let us know if you get any further improvement.

 

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Sorry to expand your Reference thread, but you commented - I think on another of your threads - that with the intro of the 'R' series, Kef may have to 'up the game' with the Reference series. Are you seriously suggesting the 'Rs' are that good? In which areas do the 'R' series  bang on the door of the references?  

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plastic penguin wrote:

Sorry to expand your Reference thread, but you commented - I think on another of your threads - that with the intro of the 'R' series, Kef may have to 'up the game' with the Reference series. Are you seriously suggesting the 'Rs' are that good? In which areas do the 'R' series  bang on the door of the references?  

It's very subjective and only my opinion.....but what I'm saying is that the R Series are good enough to have considerably closed the gap (ie. compared to the XQ it replaced).....and that gap really needs to be widened again, by trickling the Blade technology down to the Reference Line.

The Refs are still better, but are much less forgiving and need very good amplification. If I was starting again, I'm not sure I would pay the extra.....the R700s are probably the sweetspot of the range, and the LS50 is as good a small speaker as I've heard up to 3x its cost.

IMO. The Refs are cleaner, more revealing, livelier, slightly more neutral and with better controlled bass....so without quite knocking on the door, the R Series is certainly looming large in the rear view mirror.

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