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Yes I agree downloads are the future with cd sales down about 17% and music downloads up 11%. Only problem I have is at the moment a lot of the high res stuff is not available in the UK. Ive been on sites like HDtracks and most apart from the Doors is not allowed due to trerrtory restrictions, if they can solve that it will open more sales although to be fair not many albums available yet.

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BigH - there are other albums on HDtracks available to us in the UK.  I downloaded an Kinks album a few days ago (not using a US based proxi server)

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That is good to know, only I looked about 20 and only Doors and Dead Can Dance seemed available, none of the Jazz at all, I believe it is an label issue. Now I don't mind the Doors and I may buy some as I have not got any on cd yet. But what are the hopes of this being resolved soon? 

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BigH wrote:

I was about to post a question about active speakers.

 

Can you hear these at dealers can't find much info online?

 

You can certainly find out more about AVI actives over at hddaudio.net as well as a great deal of other stuff from generally pleasant people on the forum.  If you want to audition then it aint as easy as other makes but depending on where you are there is the hq and owners will often let you audition in their homes.  You see there are different people around.

Actives, with exceptions, are more readily found in pro-sound shops.  They are not always great lookers but they are not manufactured to be pretty, just effective communicators and generally better VFM than hi-fi.

Have a chat to the people on hdd, you almost certainly won't regret it.

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relocated wrote:

BigH wrote:

I was about to post a question about active speakers.

Can you hear these at dealers can't find much info online?

You can certainly find out more about AVI actives over at hddaudio.net

Bear in mind that's AVI's own forum though, so you won't exactly get a neutral view of the speakers...

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as well as a great deal of other stuff from generally pleasant people on the forum.

Hmm, generally pleasant, except when they're talking about people from this forum, then they're anything but.

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Thanks, I had a look at a few posts about them and some people rave about them and a few don't like them. I see the amps are high watts would they be suitable for low volumes as well.

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The_Lhc wrote:

relocated wrote:

BigH wrote:

I was about to post a question about active speakers.

Can you hear these at dealers can't find much info online?

You can certainly find out more about AVI actives over at hddaudio.net

Bear in mind that's AVI's own forum though, so you won't exactly get a neutral view of the speakers...

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as well as a great deal of other stuff from generally pleasant people on the forum.

Hmm, generally pleasant, except when they're talking about people from this forum, then they're anything but.

After some of what you've been writing, that's actually a little too nice.

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relocated said.....

I'm afraid that, if you can be bothered any more, this is what you will experience all to often. Back in the mists of time I think you were looking for the best bang for your buck.

The biggest bang you will get is with Active speakers. I own AVI ADM 9T actives and they are the best thing I have ever purchased in 40 years of hi-fi. A little under £1100 got me a pair of speakers, dedicated power amps, remote controlled pre-amp, DAC, power and interconnect leads. The finish on the cabinets is excellent and the sound is superb. Add a cd/dvd/bd spinner [no you don't need to spend much money] or ATV etc and you have a system that is extreme VFM and superb sounding.

There are other 'actives' available but I don't own those so can't verify their wondrousness. If you are starting out in hi-fi again,as you are in life, you owe it to your ears and wallet to try 'active' and AVI ADM in particular.

Happy New Year to you and evryone else on WHF.

Many thanks for your advice relocated.

I went and auditioned some Rega gear today and tho it sounded very good,for some reason I did not pull the trigger. Fate maybe? who knows.....

Anyway,when I got home I found your post regarding the Active speaker route. Having been reading it all up for the last hour or so and ringing AVI for more in formation I am on the point of taking the plunge!

Ironically,the guy at AVI went out on a limb and even said I should not waste my money on a CD transport as my DVD would in all likelyhood deliver a better signal to the AVI built in Dac than a high costing CD player. I was gobsmacked as this has now gone full circle regarding my original post about CD transports. He actually said as well that once heard ,I would not go back to seperates systems and that Naim and Neat sound spitty compared with the AVI setup. He even said that they give a no quibble 30 day return offer if I am not totally satisfied with the system which makes it a bit of a no brainer really.

Plus the chance when ordering to upgrade to a far higher quality tweeter in the speaker which really does make a difference he said. AVI are no mugs when it comes to hi fi...they make some of the best and most expensive stuff out thedre so this little system has alot going for it from what I can see.

The amazing thing is that it will probably cost less than half what I was about to spend as all cables and even the interconnects are included.

I am very tempted............ 

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Alec wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

relocated wrote:

BigH wrote:

I was about to post a question about active speakers.

Can you hear these at dealers can't find much info online?

You can certainly find out more about AVI actives over at hddaudio.net

Bear in mind that's AVI's own forum though, so you won't exactly get a neutral view of the speakers...

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as well as a great deal of other stuff from generally pleasant people on the forum.

Hmm, generally pleasant, except when they're talking about people from this forum, then they're anything but.

After some of what you've been writing, that's actually a little too nice.

My brain is still in holiday mode, I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not? 

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Some silly questions how do you connect up your cd player, tuner, tape decks to active speakers? Presume you need to have them near to a power supply?

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Etymotic, there are a few around here who have actives of different guises, it may be worth starting a thread to find out more about the varying models of AVI and any other brands that people use, it may be of some use to BigH also.

Above all though a demo needs to be on the cards, 1k odd is still lots of money to go in blind, actives of any ilk split opinion just like any other hi-fi product.

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Some silly questions how do you connect up your cd player, tuner, tape decks to active speakers?

Depends, some of them have multiple inputs (AVIs for example), for others you'll need a pre-amp.

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I looked on an AVI speaker and it has 2 dig. inputs and 1 analogue input, 1 left 1 right, so don't understand, say I have a turntable, I would need some long leads? to connect fair enough but what about other analogue items, I have 3 at the moment.

 

My thinking is no speaker wire but long interconnects, or is this mainly for digital gear? 

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Pop over to the AVI site H, one of the contributors there (Phil B) used to use AVI speakers with his turntable collection.  I think he's since got rid of them and gone back to traditional hifi for whatever reason.  You'll need a phono pre-amp which will hook up to the AVI speakers and you're away though.  

The 30-day return option shouldn't be sniffed at, but make sure you get that in writing (or check their website).  Ashley isn't a chancer and is upfront, but by the same token, your handing over £1300 if you go for the Scanspeak tweeter option.  Makes sense.

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the record spot wrote:

Pop over to the AVI site H, one of the contributors there (Phil B) used to use AVI speakers with his turntable collection.  I think he's since got rid of them and gone back to traditional hifi for whatever reason.

He has gone full circle and is back using the latest Adms.  Apparently couldn't find any passives that compared.

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