The great cd player con..........Your thoughts please!
Major Fubar whatever your name is....I suggest you get over yourself mate.
It's not my fault you're new here and it's not my fault you haven't seen the same blah blah blah repeated almost ad-nausea. Every few weeks a thread comes along that says we're all being conned somehow. Be it cables, DACs, CD players, you name it.
Use your own ears, and forget what someone else thinks. It takes nothing more than common sense to realise that all CD players are going to sound different, even if only because they have different circuitry in the DAC chain (though there's more to it than even that). Lift the lid off a CD player and there's far more components in the digital-to-analogue audio-chain than just the DAC chip itself, not even mentioning the differences created by different power supplies and clocks, giving an almost infinate possibility for variances in sound. There is no cat among the pigeons. Spend time listening to different CD players, or different combinations of digital sources and different DACs, and you will plainy see (hear!) for yourself that of course there are differences. In fact finding a sound that you like is all part of the fun (though some times it's part of the frustration). 
Major nearly all forums are the same,same old questions/posts saying the same things over and over again and then people complaining about it.
As for this forum I think it is one of the worst I have used in terms of following posts esp. ones you have responded to.
"Lots of classical,though more chamber than full blown orchestra.
80's electronica, and more modern stuff like Daft punk,LED Soundsystem"
So you are probably not too worried about bass? Not too familiar with 80s stuff, most of mine is 50s jazz, 70s rock (Little Feat/Zepp/Who/Pink Floyd/Doors) although don't play that much now, more into female vocals, celtic, going into modern blues.
I think the main considerations when choosing speakers is the bass and treble, some people me included don't like a harsh treble, some metal tweekers don't suit some ears. Bass is also a big deal but can depend alot on the room, size, space etc.
What sort of room size and volumn do you play at? I hear the B&W 685 need some driving so are off my list.
Happy new year everybody!
Have a look at this link. If his research is pukka then we have been taken for a ride for many a year regarding the fact that the more a CD player costs the better it is!
I am only posting this because I am looking for a Cd player to act as a transport for my Rega Dac. I was fully intending to get the Rega Apollo to compliment the Dac and a Rega Brio R,but this aticle has made me think do I need to spnd all tha money on a CD player if itis only going to act as a transport. His research implies that the use of a cheap DVD player would beno worse than a £10,000 player.......I am sure this cannot be true ....or is it?
I would be interested on your thoughts on this please. Here is the link...its a facinating read...
http://www.drhifi.net.au/Hi-Fi/Digital%20Is%20Digital/1.htm
Also I am undecided about speakers to go with this system..ie, Rega Brio R amp,Rega Dac and probably an Apollo Cd player. Can you give your thoughts and feelings regarding speakers that really sing with this equipment. Regards.
This line from the article sums it up completely:
"Because the Hi-End Audio buyer is coming from a 'Hi-Fi Culture' which has been carefully cultivated over decades by marketing Spin Doctors rather than a 'Computing Culture' where there are no such false pretences or misgivings."
Nail, meet Head.
Hoorah! At least some of you are bothering to read the link instead of jumping straight down my throat just because I (unknowingly) have rehashed an old subject that has been discussed before.
It does make sense what this chap says and is indeed eye opening. Basically, he is saying the biggest differences will be found in Amplifiers, Line Stages, Loudspeakers, Subwoofers, Turntables, Cartridges and Phono Stages. In other words; anything that is analogue in nature will make a considerable difference to the overall performance and to Spend your money in these key areas. Digital components reveal the least differences per pound spent
These kind of posts are getting incredibly tedious, with the same kind of stuff rehashed and repeated week after week, month after month, and nearly every time a new similar thread comes along, the person who starts it thinks they're the first.
Expensive speaker cables are a con, let's argue. Expensive interconnects are a con, let's argue. Mains-conditioning devices and specialist mains cables are a con, let's argue. Specialist supports for your electronics are a con, let's argue. Expensive HDMI cables are a con, let's argue. Expensive USB cables are a con, let's argue. All CD players sound the same, discuss (even though they very obviously don't). All amps sound the same, let's discuss (even though they very obviously don't). Different CD transports don't influence the sound. Streamers are better than DACs attached to computers. DACs attached to computers are better than streamers. WHF tests are worthless because they're not double-blind. High-res music is a con.
What other regular contentious issue have I missed that we can perhaps get over and done with?
Hoorah! At least some of you are bothering to read the link instead of jumping straight down my throat just because I (unknowingly) have rehashed an old subject that has been discussed before.
It does make sense what this chap says and is indeed eye opening. Basically, he is saying the biggest differences will be found in Amplifiers, Line Stages, Loudspeakers, Subwoofers, Turntables, Cartridges and Phono Stages. In other words; anything that is analogue in nature will make a considerable difference to the overall performance and to Spend your money in these key areas. Digital components reveal the least differences per pound spent
You don't say what the rest of your system is, I'm assuming you don't have a disc player at all? In which case I suggest you don't get a cheap DVD player but a cheap Blu-ray player, and analyse its sound through the Rega. It may well sound fabulous. And I would suggest you ignore dogma on either side of the fence.
It's just a pity Maxwell of the Flin isn't around.....Just the kind of thread he would love.
What other regular contentious issue have I missed that we can perhaps get over and done with?
They have their cult meeting on Thursday morning and then they will be here to answer you. I'm surprised you left them off the list. It would be great to get the AVI worshippers over and done with but they don't operate like that.
These kind of posts are getting incredibly tedious, with the same kind of stuff rehashed and repeated week after week, month after month, and nearly every time a new similar thread comes along, the person who starts it thinks they're the first.
Don't read 'em then.
These kind of posts are getting incredibly tedious, with the same kind of stuff rehashed and repeated week after week, month after month, and nearly every time a new similar thread comes along, the person who starts it thinks they're the first.
Don't read 'em then.
Precisely!
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Probably didnt explain situation fully. I havnt already got a a rega Dac...I am building a new system from scratch as I had to sell my old set up... a Naim/Neat combo to partly finance divorce. Am sorted in new relationship now so my mind has once again turned to Hi fi.
I am focusing on Rega as have had their stuff before...old brio amp etc before I switched to my Naim set up. Due to financial restrictions now however, I have concluded that Rega are probably going to give me the most bang for my buck and the cheapest route to a sort of Hi end sound. If I am wrong in this assumpion then I am open to other suggestions by all means.
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The speakers would be sat on a carpeted concrete floor. As to music I like listening too......Lots of classical,though more chamber than full blown orchestra.
80's electronica, and more modern stuff like Daft punk,LED Soundsystem and indie bands such as Wild beasts,Crystal castles. Dont play so much out and out heavy metal these days due to family set up,but I still have my moments. We are talking Audio slave,Linkin Park Guns and Roses and Led zeppelin.... and probably my favorite band ...Sigur Ros.
So quite eclectic tastesas you can see