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byakuya83 wrote:

Don't know if these are mentioned, perhaps the early posts need updating/amending:

http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/products/ws100-range/ws100/

 

these monitor audios are very interesting!

I just received and instaleed b&w mm1s, which are very similar (small, active, two way, class d, dsp, not wireless though) and they are simply brilliant.

so the ws100 could be a great pair too.

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Just listened to the dynaudio (dbm50 and bm5a's) both similar money, but for me the 50's won hands down. Very detailed, don't know whether the rake on the front baffle adds to the dispersion, but I'm impressed. Got to listen to the bm6a II's (hopefully side by side) to see whether the extra power makes the difference. I like the simplicity of just plugging the streamer straight in and clicking play. T'is the future.

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skippy wrote:
Just listened to the dynaudio (dbm50 and bm5a's) both similar money, but for me the 50's won hands down. Very detailed, don't know whether the rake on the front baffle adds to the dispersion, but I'm impressed. Got to listen to the bm6a II's (hopefully side by side) to see whether the extra power makes the difference. I like the simplicity of just plugging the streamer straight in and clicking play. T'is the future.

The DBM50s are designed for desktop use so the sound difference that you heard could well be down to how the drivers were angled towards you. Bear this in mind if you are going to standmount these in your home, as you could end up with the drivers pointing upwards, this is particularly import for the tweeter as higher frequencies are more directional.

Obviously if you are using these to monitor then disregard the above. Smile

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Overdose - The rake on the front panel may work better as most of the listening will be stood up at the end of the room, so if I can make some low stands this could be optimal for seated listening (close up) and standing listening. Ultimately a side by side demo with the bma6II's is the next step. I did also see an article where a guy had placed juggling balls under the 50's to bring the front panel level in the vertical plane, but he admitted this was precarious, but did get better results. Another problem with the 50's is they may be too underpowered, my room is about 15' x 30', nearer the time I may be lucky enough to get a home demo. If I did end up with the 6a's, I may be tempted to put a slight angle on the top of the stand for the reasons I mentioned at the beginning. Thanks

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Room size is an important point and it might be worth considering more powerful monitors. The alternative is to use the BM9 sub for lower frequencies and cut off below 60/80Hz with the filter switch at the back. This will give you a bit more headroom before the speakers clip at louder listening levels.

I thought the BM5As that I had were very good, but that they might struggle in larger rooms. My room is 11' x 18' approx. Maybe try to demo the BM12As, they are slightly larger and a bit more powerful.

Edit: I'd bypass the BM6As, as they have larger drivers, but the same amplification.

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@Skippy - Did you listen to the BM5A MKI or MKII?

 

@Overdose - Did you own the BM5A MKI or MKII?

 

Also, I believe the BM5A MKII delivers 50 watts to the tweeter and 50 to the woofer, while the 6AMKII is 50 tweeter and 100 woofer. Same 7" driver and 1" tweeter.

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Ajani wrote:

@Skippy - Did you listen to the BM5A MKI or MKII?

 

@Overdose - Did you own the BM5A MKI or MKII?

 

Also, I believe the BM5A MKII delivers 50 watts to the tweeter and 50 to the woofer, while the 6AMKII is 50 tweeter and 100 woofer. Same 7" driver and 1" tweeter.

I have the Mk I's (gathering dust)  which supposedly sounded better, but I'm not entirely sure there'd be a great deal in it. The BM6As do use 50W amps per driver though, this is one of the reasons I plumped for the ADMs, as the 50W was not enough headroom for me, there were other reasons.

The Dynaudio BM series do not increase bass driver power until the BM12A. I am wondering if the 5's or 6's would be enough for Skippy, those room dimensions are quite generous, certainly by UK house standards.

BM6A Mk II features here.

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From the link you posted for the BM6A MKII:

 

Technical Specifications

Amplifier powerTweeter: 50 W / Woofer: 100 W

 

 

Where it gets confusing is that earlier in the "Features" section they state:

 

2 channel high grade 50-Watt RMS amplifier

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Ajani - With the 6aii outputs you're correct. That's why I need to give these a try.

The 5aii (the ones I demo'd)and dBm 50's both have 50w + 50w (saying that, the 50's sounded bigger...larger cabinet maybe?).

I'll update when I get the chance to audition these

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Ajani wrote:

From the link you posted for the BM6A MKII:

 

Technical Specifications

Amplifier powerTweeter: 50 W / Woofer: 100 W

 

 

Where it gets confusing is that earlier in the "Features" section they state:

 

2 channel high grade 50-Watt RMS amplifier

puzzled  An email to Dynaudio required, I reckon.

It is contradictory and in the context of its smaller sibling the BM5A is also quite a significant difference.

To Skippy, I would say that if the BM6As were 50/100, then I'd have less concern over their ability to fill the room. If 50/50, then probably be best to go up a level.

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From the faq on the dynaudio pro site:

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What's the difference between the BM5A and BM6A?

Answer

It's a slightly subjective question. Both are similar in component sizes and cabinet volume, and both are very linear sounding. What varies is the amount of power behind them, as the power amps are doubled in size on the BM6A. What this translates to is a very tight clean sound at much higher volumes. Beyond this they have very similar characteristics.

 

like you both say, it's slightly contradictory. Even this answer is because only the woofers power is doubled doh!

 

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Oh my, I've just ordered a pair B-Stock (just a damaged box...) of Event Opals for 1700 GBP.

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Oh my, I've just ordered a pair B-Stock (just a damaged box...) of Event Opals for 1700 GBP.

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mpapo wrote:

Oh my, I've just ordered a pair B-Stock (just a damaged box...) of Event Opals for 1700 GBP.

Good price! Will you be running them from the DAC1? Very nice combo if so.

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yes, that's the plan!

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