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TELLURIUM Q BLACK speaker cabels ?

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BronC wrote:

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Oh boy, TQ-Blue,  TQ-Black, I did a direct comparison at home last year.  I seem to remember the price per meter was around £30, £50, repectivly.  I still run the same 8x2m of system cable now as then, Linn K20 at £5 per meter.  Q-Blue was terible and I mean terible!!!  Q-Black was excelent, a tad better than my K20, but only a 'tad'.

I wonder how things would be now since I have changed to a full valve amplification system, fancy stylus and MC cartridge, rather than the hybrid amp and average mm cartridge I was then using? . . . it would have to be bl**dy good to justify 16 meters of over priced hifi copper cable? banging head against wall

CJSF

 

Did you burn the cables in for at least 70 hours?

 

They were the local hifi shops hand out, home audition sets, I have no idea how many hours they had but one presumes they were conditioned . . . ?  I even tried the directionality of the cables, a factor that many dont accept . . .

Just a point of slight correction??  TQ-Blue is £16:50 per meter not £30.

 

 

I stand corrected Bron-C . . . however, I wouId have not have given 'sixteen pence' for them in my system!

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The best way to define  the Q black is realistic cabels , they will not add any color or softness to the music  , they wil not hide or exaggerate anything .

If you just want to  listen to the music as it is than it is an excellent cable but if your hi fi system  and/or your music sources are not good enough than it will be abovius immediately .

 

I'm frequently intrigued by this sort of description for low or mid range cables. If a cable at £50 p/m, or whatever it is, adds nothing, takes nothing away and simply lets the music through (etc), what is to be gained from spending on higher end cables? I say that having read WHF and indeed someone like Cnoevil accepting the 'the best cable is no cable' principle. 

 

Not just a question for ISAC69 btw, and I suspect it may be rhetorical. 

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..........The Green are more forgiving.

The cheaper TQ Blues are said to be more tolerant as well, so from Blacks you can go up to Green or down to Blues. I imagine if your system or recordings have no weak points, Blacks also will truthfully reflect that - indeed, they will be brilliant! But the Greens give such a beautiful sound with everything - old system, new; old recordings, new.

 

So they should, at £149 per metre, it would cost me £1,490 for 2x5m runs, that is more than my system cost. You could buy some good gear for that.

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BenLaw wrote:

ISAC69 wrote:

The best way to define  the Q black is realistic cabels , they will not add any color or softness to the music  , they wil not hide or exaggerate anything .

If you just want to  listen to the music as it is than it is an excellent cable but if your hi fi system  and/or your music sources are not good enough than it will be abovius immediately .

 

I'm frequently intrigued by this sort of description for low or mid range cables. If a cable at £50 p/m, or whatever it is, adds nothing, takes nothing away and simply lets the music through (etc), what is to be gained from spending on higher end cables? I say that having read WHF and indeed someone like Cnoevil accepting the 'the best cable is no cable' principle. 

 

Not just a question for ISAC69 btw, and I suspect it may be rhetorical. 

That's a very good question.

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Renman911 wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

ISAC69 wrote:

The best way to define  the Q black is realistic cabels , they will not add any color or softness to the music  , they wil not hide or exaggerate anything .

If you just want to  listen to the music as it is than it is an excellent cable but if your hi fi system  and/or your music sources are not good enough than it will be abovius immediately .

 

I'm frequently intrigued by this sort of description for low or mid range cables. If a cable at £50 p/m, or whatever it is, adds nothing, takes nothing away and simply lets the music through (etc), what is to be gained from spending on higher end cables? I say that having read WHF and indeed someone like Cnoevil accepting the 'the best cable is no cable' principle. 

 

Not just a question for ISAC69 btw, and I suspect it may be rhetorical. 

That's a very good question.

 

To find cabels that simply lets the music through is not easy and thus they are expensive the Tellurium Q black is only an entry level for high end .

Cheap cabels do have a negative efect on  the sound .

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To find cabels that simply lets the music through is not easy and thus they are expensive the Tellurium Q black is only an entry level for high end .

Cheap cabels do have a negative efect on  the sound .

 

What are you going to buy next?

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ISAC69 wrote:

Renman911 wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

ISAC69 wrote:

The best way to define  the Q black is realistic cabels , they will not add any color or softness to the music  , they wil not hide or exaggerate anything .

If you just want to  listen to the music as it is than it is an excellent cable but if your hi fi system  and/or your music sources are not good enough than it will be abovius immediately .

 

I'm frequently intrigued by this sort of description for low or mid range cables. If a cable at £50 p/m, or whatever it is, adds nothing, takes nothing away and simply lets the music through (etc), what is to be gained from spending on higher end cables? I say that having read WHF and indeed someone like Cnoevil accepting the 'the best cable is no cable' principle. 

 

Not just a question for ISAC69 btw, and I suspect it may be rhetorical. 

That's a very good question.

 

To find cabels that simply lets the music through is not easy and thus they are expensive the Tellurium Q black is only an entry level for high end .

Cheap cabels do have a negative efect on  the sound .

Whether they are cheap or not is irrelevant. They need to be low resistance, and that means thick if you have a long run. There are a number of sellers selling inexpensive thick (4mm or so) multistrand cables on Ebay. My advice would be to buy something like that.

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BigH wrote:

CJSF wrote:

Oh boy, TQ-Blue,  TQ-Black, I did a direct comparison at home last year.  I seem to remember the price per meter was around £30, £50, repectivly.  I still run the same 8x2m of system cable now as then, Linn K20 at £5 per meter.  Q-Blue was terible and I mean terible!!!  Q-Black was excelent, a tad better than my K20, but only a 'tad'.

I wonder how things would be now since I have changed to a full valve amplification system, fancy stylus and MC cartridge, rather than the hybrid amp and average mm cartridge I was then using? . . . it would have to be bl**dy good to justify 16 meters of over priced hifi copper cable? banging head against wall

CJSF

 

Did you burn the cables in for at least 70 hours?

 

Cables don't need to be burned in. It's a myth.

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RE: re TQ Blacks

BigH wrote:

antskip wrote:

CnoEvil wrote:
..........The Green are more forgiving.

The cheaper TQ Blues are said to be more tolerant as well, so from Blacks you can go up to Green or down to Blues. I imagine if your system or recordings have no weak points, Blacks also will truthfully reflect that - indeed, they will be brilliant! But the Greens give such a beautiful sound with everything - old system, new; old recordings, new.

 

So they should, at £149 per metre, it would cost me £1,490 for 2x5m runs, that is more than my system cost. You could buy some good gear for that.

 

That much? I guess there's one born every minute.

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RE: TELLURIUM Q BLACK speaker cabels ?

Good job I don't need any!

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RE: TELLURIUM Q BLACK speaker cabels ?

Presumably people spending several hundred quid on speaker cable have a near perfect system that measures within 3db across the whole frequency range. 

 

Would be interested to see how those people have their listening space set up to achieve this :)