The problem I have with a reference system is what if the speakers don't suit the amp.? then the amp is no good? If they had only used the ATC with the Arcam A19 amp which was not a great match then it would not have got such a good review. Also I don't think they do use the same ref. system all the time, I seen several different systems quoted in reviews. Also why play all different sorts of music how does that compare when using different system, it all seems a bit inconsist to me.
I seem to remember a list of the equipment used and I recall Bryston being mentioned. I'm pretty sure that whatever is used it would (should) be a lot less pedestrian than the A19. The idea of a reference is to provide a very high standard set of equipment that should just get on with their respective jobs and not hamper the equipment on test.
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It is my understanding that different systems are used but the reference system is just that, a point of reference. I have been told that all hi-fi reviews are done in a group context and that the published results reflect this.
I may not agree with their results but I think WHF are to be commended on their systematic and consistent approach, considering the number of components that they have to deal with.
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Good to see you finally coming round to accepting the point of having a reference system, ddc
Mmmmmmm...... not quite sure how you got that from what what I said......
I commend WHF for their consistent and methodical approach not for their use of 'reference systems' or for that matter their heavily treated rooms.
I think both these factors skew their test results and do not transfer all that well to results in the real world.
That said, WHF is a comercial operation and as such does a pretty good job, it is not entirely their fault that some enthusiasts consider their views to be 'ex cathedra' and rely on them far too much.
I think WHF has to match the reference system value to the speaker cost to get reliable results . There is no logic to check this Tannoy speakers for example with a very expensive High-End system because no one will buy speaker that cost 1700 pound for a system that cost many times more .
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Not so. It gives you an idea how good the speaker can be.
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