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Some ADM40s sound good, but I don't know about shipping them half way around the world.
Maybe some Yamaha HS80Ms and either a NuForce Icon HDP or a Luxman DA-200 doing DAC and pre-amp duties. Should leave me a fair bit of change for other activities.

 

Other people manage to get them round the other side of the world without any problems.    :cheer:

 

...and are screwed if they want to return them in the event they're not quite their cup of tea...

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Probably a Benchmark DAC2 HGC & a pair of Event Opals. Would be tempted to buy Event Opals right now, but my girlfriend would kill me.

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Burson Conductor

2x MF M1PWR 

Dyna Focus 160

Rel T9

Cables&Interconects with the rest of the money.

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I'll have an Oppo BDP-105 and a pair of ADAM Classic Mk3 Compacts. 

Leaves me with some change for say a hundred CD's.

 

Or the Oppo with a LFD Zero MkIV and a pair of MG12s. No CDs in this scenario, but I'm not complaining, Lemon!

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...and are screwed if they want to return them in the event they're not quite their cup of tea...

I think (from previous discussions on the matter) the terms and conditions are made clear that the '40s are 'bespoke' or made only to order.

So you'd have to be a bit silly - when told otherwise - to buy them unless you know that you are going to like them beforehand. It's a risk that is entered into with the customer's full knowledge that there is no trial period, and thus no return, on a 'made to order' product. (Unless it's damaged or faulty.)

If I went to a Savile Row tailor and had myself measured for a suit, selected the materials, colour and detailing etc. (then returned for fittings and adjustments) there would be no way I could reasonably return the suit unless the workmanship was demonstrably faulty. It couldn't be sold to anyone else.

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You're right Chebby.  They are.  In which case, you're screwed if you need to return them to base.

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You're right Chebby.  They are.  In which case, you're screwed if you need to return them to base.

But the customer already knows they are good. (Or bl###y should know at those prices!)  The only need for a return would be for repair under warranty or because they are damaged. 

I have never read of any AVI customers being let down in that respect.

I can't see the problem. (Unless someone takes a £3K  risk, despite knowing the T&Cs, and that makes them a fool.)

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Wasn't suggesting a problem, just prohibitive cost to return to base in the event of a problem.  Not suggesting there's anything wrong with the speakers, or AVI, and of course this applies not just to them but to any boutique hifi product you buy under those circumstances.  However, at the weight the ADM40s come in, that's not going to be cheap.  Caveat emptor, etc.

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Probably a Benchmark DAC2 HGC & a pair of Event Opals. Would be tempted to buy Event Opals right now, but my girlfriend would kill me.

Go for it anyway, those Opals are fantastic. :twisted:

 

If you're in the market for expensive 8" two-way active speakers have a listen to some Quested V2108 which IMO are even better than the Opals.

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Probably a Benchmark DAC2 HGC & a pair of Event Opals. Would be tempted to buy Event Opals right now, but my girlfriend would kill me.

Have a look at the ADAM Classics; they look more ehrm... classic than most actives; might get past the GF.  Smile

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mpapo wrote:

Probably a Benchmark DAC2 HGC & a pair of Event Opals. Would be tempted to buy Event Opals right now, but my girlfriend would kill me.

Go for it anyway, those Opals are fantastic. :twisted:

 

If you're in the market for expensive 8" two-way active speakers have a listen to some Quested V2108 which IMO are even better than the Opals.

 

...and there was I thinking the Opal's were winning the fugly award Wink

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At last I have kit that serves the needs of this predominately classical music lover, and with no audio foo or manufacturer attiude required for the total enjoyment thereof.

Call me an very, very happy, ex-audiophile..   Smile

 

JB   :cheers:

 

I would be very interested in knowing what you bought, as I only listen to classical as well and find I get very little good advice from the HIFI industry/shops as well. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi CSE

It's B&O kit - a TV which doubles as a surround sound processor/preamp, and has an fully active speakar array on board which can do double duty as the centre channel in an AV context, the active Beolab 9 speakers plug into it and the mains for their signal and power supply respectively.

Sources include a Sony Bluray player for movies and SACD, and for CD's I'm slowiy ripping all my collection to computer HD, and streaming from there to an Apple TV3 connected to the TV via HDMI.  This will allow me to put 1,000+ CD's away in the hall cupboard for safe keeping, rather than out in multiple storage racks in the lounge, and the sound quality is as good as any CD player that I have heard at any price, inluding my own Sony ES models from my previous system.

B&O is usually sniffed at by Audiophiles, who perceive it to be made for an allegedly 'lifestyle' market (I've never quite got the handle on this lifestyle comment, other than an audiophile put down of anything that looks nice as well as sounds good - surely good sound must mean all sorts of compromises to ones lifestyle, including putting up with quirky and fiddly gear to be considered 'serious' HiFi - ..lol) and possibly because it is active, it removes pretty much all of the add on accessories and tweaks beloved of both audiophiles and the retail HiFi industry.

True, it's quite expensive, and likely therefore to be the domain of the rich, but not necessarily very knowledgeable HiFi 'Buff', but also therein lies it's appeal to folks such as me who have been caught up in the whole HiFi separates audiophile scene over many years, and simply had more than enough of the marketing games, audiophile foo, and pseudo science practicised by audiophiles, manufacturers and the retail scene alike, and especially the attitude of some manufacturers where their approach to system builiding or their products is the 'right' one, and everyone else is 'wrong'.

B&O step right away from that sort of patronising audiophile arrogance, and for this classical music lover, are a delight to deal with as a company, and deliver a product of quality such as to last a lifetime.

 

JB

 

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JMacMan wrote:

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At last I have kit that serves the needs of this predominately classical music lover, and with no audio foo or manufacturer attiude required for the total enjoyment thereof.

Call me an very, very happy, ex-audiophile..   Smile

 

JB   :cheers:

 

I would be very interested in knowing what you bought, as I only listen to classical as well and find I get very little good advice from the HIFI industry/shops as well. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi CSE

It's B&O kit - a TV which doubles as a surround sound processor/preamp, and has an fully active speakar array on board which can do double duty as the centre channel in an AV context, the active Beolab 9 speakers plug into it and the mains for their signal and power supply respectively.

Sources include a Sony Bluray player for movies and SACD, and for CD's I'm slowiy ripping all my collection to computer HD, and streaming from there to an Apple TV3 connected to the TV via HDMI.  This will allow me to put 1,000+ CD's away in the hall cupboard for safe keeping, rather than out in multiple storage racks in the lounge, and the sound quality is as good as any CD player that I have heard at any price, inluding my own Sony ES models from my previous system.

B&O is usually sniffed at by Audiophiles, who perceive it to be made for an allegedly 'lifestyle' market (I've never quite got the handle on this lifestyle comment, other than an audiophile put down of anything that looks nice as well as sounds good - surely good sound must mean all sorts of compromises to ones lifestyle, including putting up with quirky and fiddly gear to be considered 'serious' HiFi - ..lol) and possibly because it is active, it removes pretty much all of the add on accessories and tweaks beloved of both audiophiles and the retail HiFi industry.

True, it's quite expensive, and likely therefore to be the domain of the rich, but not necessarily very knowledgeable HiFi 'Buff', but also therein lies it's appeal to folks such as me who have been caught up in the whole HiFi separates audiophile scene over many years, and simply had more than enough of the marketing games, audiophile foo, and pseudo science practicised by audiophiles, manufacturers and the retail scene alike, and especially the attitude of some manufacturers where their approach to system builiding or their products is the 'right' one, and everyone else is 'wrong'.

B&O step right away from that sort of patronising audiophile arrogance, and for this classical music lover, are a delight to deal with as a company, and deliver a product of quality such as to last a lifetime.

 

JB

 

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Living room: Apple TV, FIIO D03K, Fostex PM0.4n

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Which man at Cyrus told you that they cant fix what Cyrus product ? to the best of my knowledge they can service and repair a Cyrus 1 or 2 ect.Might be a cd player they dont have a laser for anymore but i bet they can update it to a newer version still.

 

Heres is the latest Cyrus blog

http://www.cyrusaudio.com/blog/the-search-is-on

Thirty years on and there are plenty of early Cyrus products still going strong. So as part of our 30th anniversary celebrations, we’re searching for the oldest working Cyrus product in the UK. Do you have a Cyrus 1 or 2 which still works?

Tweet us your serial number using #cyrusanniversary, and if your Cyrus is the oldest, you will win a full service and internal refurbishment from our specialised Service and Support Team – completely free of charge!

Thats a 30 year old product

Whenever we service or repair a Cyrus product, our Service and Support Team update certain parts to modern specification, instantly improving the performance of the system. Our team will do this for your product, as well as thoroughly testing it and ensuring that it is performing and sounding as good as it did when it was new (or even better!).

 

 

Maybe you should read all the comments about the 6SE8SE cd player then. I think his name was Peter. 

 

So John you work for Cyrus?

Im retired but i used to work for british rail.

ive never worked in hifi but i do own Cyrus kit.

michell gyrodec with orbe platter - phono x + psxr - sbt - cdxtse + psxr - audiolab m-dac -  AS Passion passive - sony bdp s780 bluray also into the dac - - pmc tb2+speakers -  biamped with 2 Xpowers both with psxr with rel sub - dab 8 - fm 7.5

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