Going back to the Sugden A21se combos as they would come in under £4k i could stretch to the PMC twenty24? Any ideas how this might work?
Reading all the reviews of the Electrocompaniet amp suggests it may not be good for fast-paced complex music?! That depsite its power!
Its hard to find thoughts from actual owners of these esoteric products!!
What size room do you have?
Maybe ought to mention i currently only have a Marantz MCR603 and MA BX2 system which is not filling the room and obviously doesnt do deep bass. I have a Monitor audio RX 6 speakers on a Pioneer SClX85 AVR and the lack of bass depth again is dissapointing. Bass depth/power without a Sub is important so i have also wondered about the KEF R900 but no one seems to have written anything onlne about these yet!
I Have the M-CR603 and orginally had the BX2's which i thought were terrible! Upgraded to Kef R100's and the difference is amazing the bass, clarity, musicality and soundstage are so much better, so moving up the Kef R range i'm sure you will love them!
Goes to show speakers make the biggest change in sound!!.. As per the write up of the bose system totally agree with it... I may b looking at that nxt myself who knows. Am more about gettin the right sound for me & no one else!! Hey its all in the listening & trusting your own ears!!
Gone alittle of topic but just like to point out that at well over double the cost and a somewhat newer design the Kef R100 probably should sound better than the MA BX2. I do think the MCR603/BX2 combo a bit lifeless and dull sometimes with some music but sometimes blows me away with others. Its never hard to listen to and due to the front ports on BX2 as opposed to rear on KEf i suspect much easier for positioning in spaces like mine!
To be honest I thought the BX2's were very dull no matter what I played. Yes the R100's were £480 but worth every penny!! I would have paid the RRP of £600 for the sound difference they made.
As for positioning, the Kef's are far easier to position than the BX2's even though they are rear ported. Place the BX2's anywhere near a wall and the base is so boomy whereas the Kef's base is superb!
Panasonic TX-L42WT50B TV, Panasonic DMP-BDT220 Blu Ray, Virgin Tivo, Ruark Audio R4i, Marantz M-CR603, Kef R100 speakers...Cables....Audioquest FLX SLiP 14/4 speaker cables, Audioquest HDMI's, TCI Coral Optical + Clearer Audio Silverline, Merlin Terantula MK6 and Tacima CS929.
My advice is that once you have got your shortlist........forget about what people say and go listen, as you will find good and bad opinions about most products. You will quickly find where you stand on the sound, especially if you are comparing a few different brands.
"Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again." André Gide
Its 6 x 6 metres floor space with a sloping roof all the way from over 3 metres high on the inside down to 1.2 metres on the outside wall.
Basically in a roof!
OMG yet another AMP contender and this one looks just too
Discounted too!..... lol my total budget has gone from circa £5k to potentially around £8.5k.
Might have to forget about a replacement car now!
IMO. You are looking in completely the right direction.......but as you can see, it's a slippery slope.
I would have thought that Sugden amp would struggle and would be glowing red hot. I suggest you try and hear the AVI ADM 40s, they have 325W amps that should be enough for that size room.
It may depend on what speakers he ends up with, and how loud the OP plays music.
I agree that the more different options which are explored, the better.
Before you fall too deeply for the Pathos, would be best to contact Audio Affair, as when I recently enquired about the availability of another Pathos amp, they had dropped the brand.
Accuphase E350 amp, Electrocompaniet EMC1UP CDP, Siltech 25th Classic anniversary 330I XLR Harbeth Super HL5 on Sound Anchor Quod ELS63 stands, Chord Odessey2 SC. Grado SR60I headphones. HIFI RACKS Podium Reference rack.
The Sugden whilst does run pretty warm, not that warm!
I think Sugden matched with some Harbeth P3ESR plus the Shandling CDP in that size room would be superb.
This crowd have some ex-dem Pathos: http://www.audiooasis.co.uk/en/results.php?field=Manufacturer&search=Ex%...
There seems to be some suggestion that the bigger the price, the bigger the performance. Not necessarily.
The bargains you're spotting seems to suggest you might be considering purchasing without listening.
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HiFi : Sonos ZP90 - AVI ADM9 RSS + AVI SUB
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Stuff which is heavily discounted, usually has been marked down for a reason. Often, because there are no remaining buyers who like it well enough to pay full price for it. - JC
Or there is a new model coming out so they are getting rid of old stock
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