yeah not sure about the studio look, but thanks for the suggestions. how do monitors get on with subtler music styles?
im literally totally ignorant to a decent system, coming from a £500 richer sounds Cambridge Audio system but split up with my g/f earlier this year and its time to treat myself... new car or quality sound system.. i know what i'd prefer!!! i'll keep my old banger and enjoy some music!
Bear in mind that the music you listen to on your hifi has been mixed and mastered using studio monitors!
Also consider that there are many people who have moved away from traditional separate systems to studio monitors or active speakers in general because of the benefits they offer. The Event Opals are one such example of this and have had much praise heaped upon them from the hifi side of the fence, with the speakers being compared favourably with much more expensive traditional setups. However, if looks are important to you, you would need to spend quite a bit more for more hifi styled actives unless you were to look at cheaper speakers from Dynaudio or AVI, for example.
As you have by your own admission, little experience in this hobby, I would advise listening very carefully to a variety of systems and certainly don't let on that you have perhaps upwards of 10K to spend on a system. You will almost certainly be convinced that you need to spend it all to get the best results.
There's a lot to be said for old bangers for sure, but they do go wrong, so why not put a couple of thousand in the bank in case you need to get another when yours packs up?
Mac mini > AVI ADM9Ts
As you have by your own admission, little experience in this hobby, I would advise listening very carefully to a variety of systems and certainly don't let on that you have perhaps upwards of 10K to spend on a system.
Wise words indeed Sir.
OK, advice from your 'lifestyle' guru here........
Spend about £2k on a pair of Event Opals, or if you want something a bit more conventional looking, a pair of Adam S series. A decent remote control dac/preamp and even with stands and cables you are looking at no more than £3k.
The sound will be fantastic, it may lack the ultimate refinement of a top passive system but given your musical preferences that is hardly going to be an issue, scale, punch and presence will be immense though, a perfectly acceptable result in my view.
This will of course still leave you with ample funds for a half decent motor, win - win.......
If you need a bit of encouragement, just remember the immortal words of Ian Drury......
Had a love affair with Nina,
In the back of my Cortina................
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,
And we remember why we came.
I would really want to try these if room allows and big / traditional speakers don't put one off...
... something like Sudgen's Masterclass LA-4, SPA-4 or 2x MPA-4 to power them...
In a 5m x 5m room you could scale down to Spendor's SP2/3R2s ...
... and Sugden's Masterclass IA4 integrated.
You could also call Harbeth Loudspeakes and discuss your needs with them...
However, these suggestions reflect some of my Lottery Jackpot aspirations whereas it's actually your money :-) Take your time and make sure you can try out the options in your home. (If you can't - on that budget - then you have just met a dealer with no understanding of the current economic conditions.)
In a completely different direction, you could waggle your £10K - £20K at Band & Olufsen or Meridian. (You can afford some of their better solutions.)
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For around £2k you can have the AVI ADM9RS + ADM sub (no step amp required). They could be all you ever need.
As as well as this, I'd be booking a demo with B & O to hear the Beolab 9 and the Beolab 5.
TV room : Samsung 60" plasma-ATV3, -AVI ADM40, DM5 in 4.0,/Sonos ZP90,, Sky using Sonos for On Demand, PS4, Sony BDP S570 thru a Yamaha RXV3067.
HiFi : Sonos ZP90 - AVI ADM9 RSS + AVI SUB
Bedrooms : 2 x Sonos Play 3
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If you are new to all this, you are likely to be left more confused than ever by the very different, but well meaning advice you will get.
You MUST NOT assume that any of us have "the answer" which is right for you.
There is only one way to become more knowledgeable, and that is to take the suggestions you get here, make a list, and start the demo process.
There are 3 possible paths that you might consider:
1. The Traditional route - much as I have suggested above.
2. The "One Box" route - where you get something like a Linn Majik DSM, which has source & amp in a single housing.....just add speakers, like Kef R700s.
3. Active Speaker route - these use an active crossover, and the amps (one for each drive unit) are built into the speakers......just add a source.
Each method has their advantages / disadvantages, and no assumptions can be made as to which you will prefer. In a subjective area such as one's taste in musical presentation, "better" is the one you enjoy most.
Once you understand how you like your system to sound, it is easier to narrow down the suggestions we give.....and there is only one way to do that, which is to try different Types and Classes of amp; try as many speakers as is practical, as well as comparing Active vs Passive systems.
The suggestions you have received so far are all good, but will sound VERY different indeed......your job is to find which is most suitable for your needs and your taste.
"Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again." André Gide
Even more wise words for the OP to take onboard. I will add this.... If any dealer refuses you the option of a home dem ,walk !.
How your room plays the system is numero uno in this hifi malarky , this is why home dems are a must.
If it is about enjoying your music rather more than the kudos[??] of having spent £10k or more, then buy a pair of AVI ADM 9RS active speakers + dedicated AVI sub for just £2k.
It is my experience, in a room slightly larger than yours, that just the speakers without sub produce a wonderful room filling sound beyond the abilities of considerably more expensive kit. With the dedicated sub you move on just that little bit further, particularly in terms of dealing with any room issues, and there is the added oomph with film soundtracks.
You can then spend the rest of the money treating yourself in other areas.
Best of luck.
Apple Lossless - ATV3 - AVI ADM 40 also ATV3 into AVI ADM 9T [my wife's system]
and Grado SR80i
This would great if it could be guaranteed that we would all like the same thing.
Buy the car and get out and meet a new woman!
You don't need to spend anywhere near £20,000 to get a really amazing sounding system IMHO. For a budget of £5000-10,000 (or less!) you can buy a system that has 99% of the performance of the best £20,000+ systems. Very often with many of the urber expensive HiFi systems you just end up getting expensive bling which doesn't actually sound better than much cheaper systems and many of them even sound worse.
Having said that, something like the Adam Audio Tensor Gamma Mk 2 speakers are fantastic. These are available in both active (with built in amplifiers) and passive versions (that need an external amplifier). The active versions are the ones to go for though because they have better sound quality and more dynamic range. They cost a around £12,500 and you will need a pre-amplifier to control the volume. You can get good pre-amplifiers with built in DAC's for a few hundred pounds which will have perfect sounding audibly transparent sound quality. If you do want to spend a bit more then the Benchmark DAC 1 for around £1,000 is a good option but you really don't need to spend that much IMHO.
Here's the Adam Audio Tensor Gamma Mk 2 web page:
Here's a review of the old Adam Audio Tensor Gamma Mk 1 speakers:
PC > AVI Neutron Five 2.1
Sony NWZ-A847 64GB Walkman > Westone UM3x
Don't be put off by the low price. These are fantastic speakers for just £2,000 including the matching subwoofer. They're certainly worth an audition along with some of the more expensive systems suggested here.
yeah not sure about the studio look, but thanks for the suggestions...
Yeah, most of them are pretty fugly.
Very well. These are certainly worth an audition (if you can live with the looks).
Demo, demo, then demo some more!
Make a shortlist of speakers to demo, both passive (traditional) and active.
Find a shop or two that have a mixture of your shortlist and compare them.
For the passive speakers you need to try different amplifiers as they can make them sound different.
Then once you have found one or two systems that you really like get home demos.
You don’t want to buy the first thing that sounds ‘good’ only to find after a few weeks that you can’t live with it long term!
Also, agree with several other posters – you don’t need to spend £10,000.
CA 751BD, Denon AVR-3801, Quad 21L2, Quad L2 Centre, Mission 78DS
Samsung LE32R87BD 32"
Sonus Faber Venere 2.5 and 3.0 are beautiful speakers that also sound great.
Accuphase E-560 (Class A) or alternatively E-460 looks and sounds great as-well as being built to last.
Another nice "future prof" set-up would be Marantz Reference NA-11S1 Network Audio Player/DAC and Marantz PM-11S3 Amplifier, reference quality sound and great looks.
Aye , but coming from folk who 'maybe' havnt even lived with a 3k system let alone10k/20k , well they would say that wouldnt they if you think about it.
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