What about a pair of PMC FBIi's, they work well with Naim and are very efficient at 90db 1w 1m and an easy 8 ohm load .
They sound the same at all listening levels only louder or quieter , the bass does not disappear at low levels like so many other speakers and they can be used reasonably close to the wall because they have a front firing transmission line exit ( port ) .
They will fill a large sized room easily with the power available from the SuperUniti and sound brilliant IMO and can be found second hand within your budget .
I believe Paul at HiFi lounge has a pair for sale on ebay for £1500 and might do you a good deal
Worth a try
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The OP wants speakers around the same price as Rega RS5s and Neat Motive SE2s. I think that's about £995 and £1495 respectively.
Harbeth P3ESRs would be at the limit of the budget given their £1499 price tag. (And the £2700 Super HL5s or £2200 Spendor SP2/3R2s would be more appropriate in a larger room but so much more expensive.)
PMC GB1is maybe. (Also sound great from my experience of a Naim company demo with their original Uniti and GB1is.) But they are now almost £1700.
I think the OP has got it about right with his own suggestions.
Yeah, when the GB1i series first introduced (approx 4 years ago) they were selling just shy of £1300. They have undergone a couple of hefty price hikes since then. Don't look too deeply into this, just an observation.
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I've installed quite a few SuperUniti's and the Rega RS5's / RS7's are fantastic speakers to pair with the SuperUniti but for me the PMC 23's just edge the RS7's but the best combination that is a real winner, almost as if they were made to go together, the SuperUniti with PMC twenty.24, amazing soundstage, detail and above all pure musicality, a pairing that gets my vote everytime and they would work in the OP's room no problem :)
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The problem is the speakers that do justice to the amp and the room size, may not do the same for his wallet.
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Paul's a dealer. What else would you expect?
'Having a budget' is a meaningless concept to these guys.
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Paul's a dealer. What else would you expect? 'Budget' has no meaning to these guys.
I wasn't really intending to have a go, as sometimes budgets can become (very) flexible.....and when this happens, it's worth knowing what the possible dream combinations are.
I was hinting at the start of the thread that the "right" speakers might get expensive.
Nor was I.
Paul is just doing his job. He is a salesman. He has to test how far your resolve (and credit cards) will flex beyond what you say your budget is.
He will hear 'budget' as 'starting point' just like his builders probably did when converting and fitting out his Hifi Lounge
If you're happy to also consider used/discontinued speakers then Dynaudio's Focus 220 MK2 and KEF Reference Model 2.2's are also worth bearing in mind as i've found both models to pair well with the SuperUniti.
Btw, i just want to be clear that we don't deal with used components.
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I think thats really unfair Chebby. Theres a pair of PMC twenty.24's on ebay for £1995 'Buy It Now' currently, so you could no doubt get your friendly dealer's ex demo pair for less than that. Thats not a million miles from the budget suggested (although at no point has the OP actually given a fixed budget anyway as far as I can see).
In my experience the dealers on here want to advise you as to the best equipment to pair together, which admittedly may not always fit within budget or various other constraints that are of differeing importance to different people. In my opinion lots of people here expect the earth from unrealistic budgets, and it can often be much better to spend more once than get into a costly upgrade cycle.
Alternatively a more expensive new option can be a within budget second hand option. While the dealers on here would love us all to buy everything new from them, they are offering advice to people that in many cases they will never meet or sell anything to.
To effectively brand them all money grabbing EDITEDs when they are simply offering advice based on first hand experience of lots of different speaker/amp/source combinations seems mean, even for you
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Your choice of words entirely.
I called Paul a 'dealer' and a 'salesman'.
Any good salesman or dealer (and business owner in Paul's case) will use charm, charisma, persuasion, knowledge, experience and skill to maximise income. Nothing wrong with that. The last time I looked we still live in a capitalist economy.
I agree with Cno..And as a previous Naim owner(not the Superuniti),80w/c can produce more than whats on paper.But with the size of your room imo the superuniti might struggle if you want to listen at higher volume.Yes it can play loud but may loose its composure or stability when push hard.
Thats what I was thinking, surprised nobody else seems bothered.
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He said this...
Thats around £995 - £1495 at current prices.
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It may not be how you meant it Chebby, but you also said
He has to test how far your resolve (and credit cards) will flex beyond what you say your budget is.
Which sounds very much to me like you are saying they are only after as much money as they can get from you, which I then paraphrased.
And, so long as the customer is happy, what exactly is wrong with that? For instance, our builder estimated about £18,500 for work that eventually cost us £22,500 a few years ago. I would employ him again without a moment's hesitation and I recommended him to others.
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