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Speaker Cable - old vs new?
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Hi All,

Just a quick question regarding speaker cable - namely how do people feel that a speaker cable costing approx £5 per metre 10 years ago would compare with one costing roughly the same now? I know cost isn't a direct comparison, but I don't think speaker cable has advanced that much in 10 years so I would expect the two to be of roughly comparable quality and therefore am tempted when building a new system to try the existing Cable Talk cable first before shelling out for new. Any thoughts appreciated.

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eclecticmonkey wrote:

Hi All, Just a quick question regarding speaker cable.....

The question may be quick, but the argument could be less so.  :shifty:

IMO. It depends on the cables and whether any are silver coated.

All things being equal, I suspect there will be little difference.

"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we should let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines."  Nelson Pass

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I can't remember the exact spec of it now, but it's made by Cable Talk - I googled them the other day, saw they'd gone out of business and started up again - or something like that anyway.  I think it was fairly decent at the time, I know it's subjective but I too think it will probs not make that much difference unless I were to significantly increase the amount I spent on it, and it seems a bit silly to replace a cable with one which could possibly be so similar it wouldn't be worth it.  I'll give it a try and see how it goes!

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IMO. You are better to avoid Silver coating, and stick with all copper from the likes of Atlas, Linn K20 (ebay) or Van Damme.

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Copper was a lot cheaper in 2003 than it is today. http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/copper/all/

 

The price of silver has gone through the roof in the last 10 years. http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/silver/all/

 

Silver, followed by copper are the best substances known to man for conducting electricity. There have been no breakthroughs in the last 200 years in finding anything better than them for this purpose.

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I would not spend too much on cable, just make sure its thick enough, for short runs 2.5mm should be sufficient, longer then 4mm, I would try Van Damme Blue or OFC. Blue is available from Maplins for about £3m.

Some of the ebay ones above look a bit on the thin side.

 

As for old cables I would have thought they are just as good, you may want to clean the contacts. Think your Cable Talk is now Talk Electronics, their Talk 3 cable gets a good reveiw on here and is only £4m.

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Hi electricmonkey

I'll recommend that you should carry on using your existing Cable Talk speaker cables.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

Musicraft (Derby) - Specialist Hi-Fi, AV & Multimedia dealer

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Just use the Cable Talk cable............it will work fine like any other cable out there.

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How are they terminated? If bare wire I’d suggest you cuts the ends off and strip some fresh bare wire as oxidization over the years may well affect the contract.

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A long time ago I worked for a chap called Mathew Bond, who had a hi-fi shop in Sydney. At that time Monster cable at about A$10 was the cable of choice for good systems and it was awful, Australia was way behind the curve in the late 1980s.

He used to buy 500m drums of 'twin and earth' from a local electrical distributer and we used to open it up, strip out the uninsulated earth and be left with two strands of 2.5mm sq solid core copper one in red and one in black. Out came the Black and Decker and we lightly twisted the two cores to make cables of the required length.

They outperformed the monster cable to a degree that was quite astonishing, everyone could hear the difference so it was priced at A$20 per meter and sold by the truckload.

One evening after work, we were having a beer and he told me he had plans to move to the US and start a cable company.

What are you going to call it I asked, Tara Labs Space and Time cable he said. I thought it was hysterical and said so....... :oops:

http://taralabs.com/

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Sorry to drift off topic above, but the twin and earth solution mentioned above remains a very decent low cost option. solid core does not suit all systems or all listeners but it is very hard to beat at the price.

http://www.screwfix.com/c/electrical-lighting/twin-earth/cat830472

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lindsayt wrote:

Copper was a lot cheaper in 2003 than it is today. http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/copper/all/

 

The price of silver has gone through the roof in the last 10 years. http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/silver/all/

 

Silver, followed by copper are the best substances known to man for conducting electricity. There have been no breakthroughs in the last 200 years in finding anything better than them for this purpose.

Maybe graphine will be used at some point Smile
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lindsayt wrote:

Copper was a lot cheaper in 2003 than it is today. http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/copper/all/

 

The price of silver has gone through the roof in the last 10 years. http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/silver/all/

 

Silver, followed by copper are the best substances known to man for conducting electricity. There have been no breakthroughs in the last 200 years in finding anything better than them for this purpose.

Maybe graphine will be used at some point Smile

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