I can quite believe that a basic 522 strand copper speaker cable works fine, but I'm not convinced about using the standard shoe-string interconnects. I have tried them a couple of times after reading Rick's recommendations and they've sounded pretty hideous to me but maybe it is just 'expectation bias'. Who knows??!!
I find basic interconnects work superbly. Systems breathe
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Tell you what Rick, I'll give it another go.
Nice one. Plug, play and forget.
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You might be on to something! I've been listening with the freebie interconnects that came with the CD player tonight and it sounds great.
Might have to get some of that speaker cable now as well.
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Thanks. Some of the freebie interconnects I use came supplied with the Trio M-50 Midi system which I bought in 1986. Solid, reliable and easy to use.
Simple is best.
I find is amazing people still use rubbish cable. I have always bought good quality cable, not because I was told to, but because I listened to the difference and felt (for me) it gave an adequate improvement for the amount of money I cost.
I use Chord odyssey on my system, speak to someone at Chord and see what they recommend for your system, they actually know what they are talking about!
I used to buy into your mindset once upon a time. To use a specific and easy example though, I swapped out some Audioquest Type IV speaker cable. I think this now retails for somewhere between £10-15 a metre. I put in some 400-strand 2.5mm cable, and it's still there. The difference was so minimal it's barely worth writing about. If anything, the 400-strand is the better of the two to my ears. The Type IV is in a cupboard and unused.
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I've just bought some 322-strand OFC speaker cable on Ebay - the stuff you have I think RS, from Digitalis Direct - and will report back with my findings later in the week. For £6 for 10 metres it has to be worth a go!
Yep, sounds like it Matthew, nothing fancy, nice and easy to fit and sounds fine. Hope you like it. Need to sell off my Type IV come to think of it...!
When you do sell it (Ebay?), don't forget to use the most flowery terms you can think of to describe its magical quailities. That's bound to add an extra few quid per metre to the price
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LOL, sadly, I'm not up to the more prosaic descriptive qualities you sometimes read, so I imagine you'll see something a little less flowery!
Hi guys interesting to get all your views. TO GIVE YOU MY RESULTS I got some ofc cable and some Blackrhodium Tango bi-wire, I tested both for around 4 hours with my budget system, ARCAM CD73 ROTEL RA05 SE AMP and monitor audio br5. RESULTS I found the Blackrhodium Performed best, More Detail better stereo image, better timing and a more dynamic sound over the ofc.... In all areas the results were just a little better than the cheap cable not by a huge margin but all the same a better sound, SO YES the £165 cable did perform better in my eyes worth the extra cash after all to spend £500 on my amp £500 on my CD player and £500 on my speakers, the Extra £165 wa worth the investment, Thanks guys
lol - yet another cable thread, another punter ignoring good advice and wasting his money.
Note the key phrase in bold...
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I dont see it as a waste of money if my system sound better is that not the idea of hi-fi to produce the best sound for you budget, i agree if you cant hear the difference dont buy them but why so many keen to dis them who can hear the difference
I find it crazy that you would invest money in decent separates only to lash up the components with substandard cabling.
I would say that the cables i use are anything but substandard. The standard 500 strand OFC speaker cables i am using work superbly between the Hiato amplifier and Pl200 speakers
Never heard any of this high end stuff but I can't help but referto my earlier point about hindering performance...
Fair enough but i would not use standard speaker cables to hinder the performance of a near £10k amp and £5k speakers. I am not into bling.
Al the best
thats the point, why hold back your system, i agree some cable is si;;y money but you can get good budget cable, i also usr russ andrews mains cables they are only aroun £40 and do sound better so why not
Well, I've put the 322-strand OFC speaker cable on, wanting it to be at least as good as the Chord Co. Carnival Silverscreen I had on before. Guess what? It doesn't. The system has lost all its depth, the timbre of instruments is not described nearly as well, and the system doesn't sound half as good as before.
Tomorrow, the Chord will be going back on to the system. Glad I tried the 322, but it has just proved to me that spending a reasonable amount on a good quality speaker cable is worthwhile.
Well, I've put the 322-strand OFC speaker cable on, wanting it to be at least as good as the Chord Co. Carnival Silverscreen I had on before. Guess what? It isn't. The system has lost all its depth, the timbre of instruments is not described nearly as well, and the system doesn't sound half as good as before.
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