Yes I am. You were right. they sound great together!
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I recently demoed a CR603 with Dali Zenzor 1’s. I plan to go back and try some more speaker options and hopefully buy one at the weekend. I wanted to try the BX2’s but Richer Sounds said something about them being delivery only? Anyway, they didn’t have them. So, though not everyone on here likes them with the CR603, would you still prefer the BX2’s to the cheaper Dali’s or Q Acoustics’ 2020i’s?
I was also wondering about floor sanders’ with the CR603. KEF iq50’s are only £250 now, also Tannoy V4, Cambridge Audio S70 and Mission M33i are in my price range. Anyone heard any of these combo’s or would care to venture an opinion on how they would sound with a CR603 in comparison with the budget bookshelves mentioned above?
Before you consider floorstanders I would look at your room, size and where you can locate the speakers, if you have plenty of space then they may be OK but cheap floorstanders do tend to have some problems. What sort of music do you play and how much bass do you want?
My room is about 4 x 4m, with a wide arch to a small kitchen approx 1.5 x 1.5m. There is also a 1x2m passage into the room. I was going to attach some pics but it doesn't seem possible, I can email if you PM me?
Most of the wall space has something against it. I was thinking book shelves placed literally on bookshelves, but now understand that I would get more out of them on stands. So after moving things around a bit so there is a bit more breathing space for them on stands and adding on the cost of the stands, it got me thinking of floor stander's again. The KEF iq50's look tempting, they are a bit more compact than most floor stander's and have had some god reviews.
Yes I like a bit a bass. My listening choices are varied, 70's rock, prog, punk, indie, alt folk, electro, drum & bass, techno, funk, soul, jazz, classical. The track it played to demo the Marantz was Massive Attacks Angel.
Really just looking for the best bang for buck solution under £250. Looking for detail and a good sense of separation, I like to be able to pick out individual instruments in the sound stage.
The room size does not seem to bad although I would avoid placing them near corners and away from walls if possible. I take it you have read the WHF review:
There does seem to be some bass problems. Certainly great value but I would hear them first. I would say 50% of the speakers I thought would be good I did not like at all.
Loudspeakers would be better.
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Damm, my local Richer Sounds (Cheltenham) hasn't got the KEF's in stock, might need to go to Bristol to hear them.
The Rega 3's are way out of my price zone. There's the other ones i mentioned above, and I've seen these on sale:
Wharfedale Diamond 10.MT £189.95
Wharfedale Crystal 30.5 £159
Wharfedale Diamond 10.3 £179
Worth a listen?
I can imagine one of those either side of the telly.
Enjoy the music!
Richer Sounds Bristol have reserved the last pair of KEFs for me, will audition on Saturday. They don’t stock the BX2’s. I meant to add, re positioning:
If I go for bookshelf speakers, without stands, one would go on top of a tower CD rack, close to a wall. The second in the middle shelf of a bookcase (I can feed the cable through a gap in the back) or on top of a low shelf unit where I keep my Vinyl.This is hardly ideal i know, and because of the depth would probably rule out the 2020i’s and be very tight for the BX2’s as well.
If i go with them on stands, they would be positioned in about the same place as I would put floor standers. One would be in a corner, but not tightly to it and have my vinyl shelves to one side but with the front pointing straight out into the living room. The other is less obstructed and can be positioned a little away from the wall. I don’t think any option is going to be acoustically perfect, but then i’m not going to be here for the rest of my life anyway.
Anyone heard the Wharfedales above or the Cambridge S70’s?
Just thought I'd add that although I do play music loud, I also listen a lot at quite low volumes when I'm working at home. I think floor standers might have the edge in this respect?
Yes some do, check the sensitivity rating and also with more bass canbe better at low volumes. Problem with FS is too much bass and boomy.
Also I see some Focal FS at half price as in ad on this site maybe worth a look.
The Kefs have a sensitivity rating of 88, is that good for my needs?
I've seen the Focal Chorus 714's at £350, a little over budget i'm affraid.
88 is fairly low for FS. I would say 87 is about average for standmounts and about 90 for FS.
For instance Q Acoustics 2050i are 92.
So if I understand this correctly the rating should ideally be a little higher for good low listening use? I think i'll have to try them to see. The Dali's I have heard it with before are even lower at 86.5.
I think the Marantz has a special preset for low level listening,but i'm not sure how effective it is.
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