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I think they source them from Vifa.

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Grottyash:
I think they source them from Vifa.


Hi Grotty?!


Nice one...Cheers bud.


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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?

Couldn't live with the metal tweeters in my B&W 685's, now have Dynaudio Excite X12's and love them, but I do think my Sony 1200ES certainly didn't help the 685's cause, I still have them and when I upgrade to a better dedicated Hi-fi amp I will give them another shot.  Yet even in my younger days with my car stereo could not stand the metal tweeters in some of the MB Quartz etc and settled for some silk tweetered Polk which I also loved so I suspect I still will and always will lean towards the silk variety.  :) 

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

maxflinn:

ive read many posts on here regarding both types, some prefer soft domes, some metal, and some say that there isn't much between them once they're partnered well..


well my own observations based on my old monitor audio rx6's and my current dynaudios are that in my room at least, and with my yamaha amp (which i never got to hear my rx6's with) the soft dome tweeters are much nicer..


i used to tire of listening to my rx6's after a couple of hours, but i can listen to my dyns for days (and literally have done), the highs are so detailed yet somehow smooth and easy on my ears, it's probably the wrong word but "velvety" keeps springing to mind, and there's no sibilence at all, just crisp,deft little sounds of cymbals, etc. very nice indeed..


any views?? 



Hi maxflinn


I like both. Dynaudio's Esotar2, Monitor Audio's Platinum Ribbon, Focal's beryllium and Yamaha's beryllium (as used in the NS1000) are the finest HF units i've heard. Smile ATC's first ever HF unit promises to be exceptional. Big Smile


Btw, how are you getting on with your speaker cable?


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



Allright Rick,


I was under the impression that ATC made all of their drive units in-house.If,as you state,they don't manufacture their own HF drive units,then where do they currently source them from?


Should we expect ATC's new HF drive units to be a radical departure from technologies previously employed ie: Metal-Alloys,Ribbons etc.?


And how long will it be before we can see & hear the new models/variants for ourselves.


Regards & thanks.


BABUR.

Hi Babur72

HF units for the Entry Series are sourced from Vifa and for Classic, Tower and Professional ranges from Seas.

There will be two bespoke ATC HF units. A 34mm which is now complete for use in SCM200 and SCM300 montors. A 25mm version is in development. From what i understand these ATC HF units are based on their studio Soft Dome mid range unit.

We should see the 34mm HF unit on sale next year however there is no time scale on the 25mm unit.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
MUSICRAFT:

Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

maxflinn:

ive read many posts on here regarding both types, some prefer soft domes, some metal, and some say that there isn't much between them once they're partnered well..


well my own observations based on my old monitor audio rx6's and my current dynaudios are that in my room at least, and with my yamaha amp (which i never got to hear my rx6's with) the soft dome tweeters are much nicer..


i used to tire of listening to my rx6's after a couple of hours, but i can listen to my dyns for days (and literally have done), the highs are so detailed yet somehow smooth and easy on my ears, it's probably the wrong word but "velvety" keeps springing to mind, and there's no sibilence at all, just crisp,deft little sounds of cymbals, etc. very nice indeed..


any views?? 



Hi maxflinn


I like both. Dynaudio's Esotar2, Monitor Audio's Platinum Ribbon, Focal's beryllium and Yamaha's beryllium (as used in the NS1000) are the finest HF units i've heard. Smile ATC's first ever HF unit promises to be exceptional. Big Smile


Btw, how are you getting on with your speaker cable?


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



Allright Rick,


I was under the impression that ATC made all of their drive units in-house.If,as you state,they don't manufacture their own HF drive units,then where do they currently source them from?


Should we expect ATC's new HF drive units to be a radical departure from technologies previously employed ie: Metal-Alloys,Ribbons etc.?


And how long will it be before we can see & hear the new models/variants for ourselves.


Regards & thanks.


BABUR.



Hi Babur72


HF units for the Entry Series are sourced from Vifa and for Classic, Tower and Professional ranges from Seas.


There will be two bespoke ATC HF units. A 34mm which is now complete for use in SCM200 and SCM300 montors. A 25mm version is in development. From what i understand these ATC HF units are based on their studio Soft Dome mid range unit.


We should see the 34mm HF unit on sale next year however there is no time scale on the 25mm unit.


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



'Ey up Rick,


I'm most grateful for your informative reply.


Do you know whether the 34mm HF unit will be used in any of ATC's domestic 'speakers or will the larger HF unit be restricted to their larger studio monitors?...Unless i'm mistaken.I think the SCM300 has a 34mm HF driver,hasn't it(?). 


As my signature shows i bought the C2300 tube pre & MC501 solid-state,class A/B,output transformer power-amps.In your opinion do you believe McIntosh electronics have any potential for synergy with ATC 'speakers? Have you any listening experience of McIntosh amp's with ATC 'speakers? If so.How did the combination sound?


Your place isn't on or near Friargate,is it?


B.T.W.How's the weather in Derby?...Must be pretty nippy.


Taa very much,m' duck!   


Regards.


BABUR.

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

maxflinn:

ive read many posts on here regarding both types, some prefer soft domes, some metal, and some say that there isn't much between them once they're partnered well..


well my own observations based on my old monitor audio rx6's and my current dynaudios are that in my room at least, and with my yamaha amp (which i never got to hear my rx6's with) the soft dome tweeters are much nicer..


i used to tire of listening to my rx6's after a couple of hours, but i can listen to my dyns for days (and literally have done), the highs are so detailed yet somehow smooth and easy on my ears, it's probably the wrong word but "velvety" keeps springing to mind, and there's no sibilence at all, just crisp,deft little sounds of cymbals, etc. very nice indeed..


any views?? 



Hi maxflinn


I like both. Dynaudio's Esotar2, Monitor Audio's Platinum Ribbon, Focal's beryllium and Yamaha's beryllium (as used in the NS1000) are the finest HF units i've heard. Smile ATC's first ever HF unit promises to be exceptional. Big Smile


Btw, how are you getting on with your speaker cable?


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



Allright Rick,


I was under the impression that ATC made all of their drive units in-house.If,as you state,they don't manufacture their own HF drive units,then where do they currently source them from?


Should we expect ATC's new HF drive units to be a radical departure from technologies previously employed ie: Metal-Alloys,Ribbons etc.?


And how long will it be before we can see & hear the new models/variants for ourselves.


Regards & thanks.


BABUR.



Hi Babur72


HF units for the Entry Series are sourced from Vifa and for Classic, Tower and Professional ranges from Seas.


There will be two bespoke ATC HF units. A 34mm which is now complete for use in SCM200 and SCM300 montors. A 25mm version is in development. From what i understand these ATC HF units are based on their studio Soft Dome mid range unit.


We should see the 34mm HF unit on sale next year however there is no time scale on the 25mm unit.


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



'Ey up Rick,


I'm most grateful for your informative reply.


Do you know whether the 34mm HF unit will be used in any of ATC's domestic 'speakers or will the larger HF unit be restricted to their larger studio monitors?...Unless i'm mistaken.I think the SCM300 has a 34mm HF driver,hasn't it(?). 


As my signature shows i bought the C2300 tube pre & MC501 solid-state,class A/B,output transformer power-amps.In your opinion do you believe McIntosh electronics have any potential for synergy with ATC 'speakers? Have you any listening experience of McIntosh amp's with ATC 'speakers? If so.How did the combination sound?


Your place isn't on or near Friargate,is it?


B.T.W.How's the weather in Derby?...Must be pretty nippy.


Taa very much,m' duck!   


Regards.


BABUR.

Hi BABUR

Thanks for your post.

I am busy at the moment so i'll respond later on today. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
maxflinn:

you're dead right there pp, ive currently got dire straits greatest hits playing on a loop and as corny as it sounds, ive got over that analytical stage and am really just enjoying the music and all the little nuances of it..ive found the perfect system for me in my room Cool not through extensive demoing, but through a bit of experimentation, logic, trust in advice and a bit of luckWink

Great cd Smile

Ive owned B&W's and Monitor audio's with metal domes, every other speaker ive owned has been a soft dome.

I prefer soft domes due to their smooth, non fatiguing sound, but saying that, the monitor audio Bronze 2's i had were the best budget speakers ive owned.

The Seas excel tweeter in my ATC's is the best hf unit ive heard. Its extremely dynamic and detailed.

I can't wait to hear ATC's own hf unit when its relesed. Hopefully early next year Wink
This is intended to be a retrofit for current ATC owners

Cheers
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MattSPL:

maxflinn:

you're dead right there pp, ive currently got dire straits greatest hits playing on a loop and as corny as it sounds, ive got over that analytical stage and am really just enjoying the music and all the little nuances of it..ive found the perfect system for me in my room Cool not through extensive demoing, but through a bit of experimentation, logic, trust in advice and a bit of luckWink

Great cd Smile

Ive owned B&W's and Monitor audio's with metal domes, every other speaker ive owned has been a soft dome.

I prefer soft domes due to their smooth, non fatiguing sound, but saying that, the monitor audio Bronze 2's i had were the best budget speakers ive owned.

The Seas excel tweeter in my ATC's is the best hf unit ive heard. Its extremely dynamic and detailed.

I can't wait to hear ATC's own hf unit when its relesed. Hopefully early next year Wink
This is intended to be a retrofit for current ATC owners

Cheers
Matt 

if i ever get the chance to listen to some of these atc speakers with their funky new soft dome tweeter ill have to make sure and not take itEmbarrassed

well. not for at least a year anywaysWink


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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?

After having the Tannoy DC2000's and now the KEF Q500's, I'm afraid I'll have to put my  vote towards dual concentric/Uni-Q (very similar) technology when it comes to tweeters....

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
MUSICRAFT:

Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

maxflinn:

ive read many posts on here regarding both types, some prefer soft domes, some metal, and some say that there isn't much between them once they're partnered well..


well my own observations based on my old monitor audio rx6's and my current dynaudios are that in my room at least, and with my yamaha amp (which i never got to hear my rx6's with) the soft dome tweeters are much nicer..


i used to tire of listening to my rx6's after a couple of hours, but i can listen to my dyns for days (and literally have done), the highs are so detailed yet somehow smooth and easy on my ears, it's probably the wrong word but "velvety" keeps springing to mind, and there's no sibilence at all, just crisp,deft little sounds of cymbals, etc. very nice indeed..


any views?? 



Hi maxflinn


I like both. Dynaudio's Esotar2, Monitor Audio's Platinum Ribbon, Focal's beryllium and Yamaha's beryllium (as used in the NS1000) are the finest HF units i've heard. Smile ATC's first ever HF unit promises to be exceptional. Big Smile


Btw, how are you getting on with your speaker cable?


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



Allright Rick,


I was under the impression that ATC made all of their drive units in-house.If,as you state,they don't manufacture their own HF drive units,then where do they currently source them from?


Should we expect ATC's new HF drive units to be a radical departure from technologies previously employed ie: Metal-Alloys,Ribbons etc.?


And how long will it be before we can see & hear the new models/variants for ourselves.


Regards & thanks.


BABUR.



Hi Babur72


HF units for the Entry Series are sourced from Vifa and for Classic, Tower and Professional ranges from Seas.


There will be two bespoke ATC HF units. A 34mm which is now complete for use in SCM200 and SCM300 montors. A 25mm version is in development. From what i understand these ATC HF units are based on their studio Soft Dome mid range unit.


We should see the 34mm HF unit on sale next year however there is no time scale on the 25mm unit.


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



'Ey up Rick,


I'm most grateful for your informative reply.


Do you know whether the 34mm HF unit will be used in any of ATC's domestic 'speakers or will the larger HF unit be restricted to their larger studio monitors?...Unless i'm mistaken.I think the SCM300 has a 34mm HF driver,hasn't it(?). 


As my signature shows i bought the C2300 tube pre & MC501 solid-state,class A/B,output transformer power-amps.In your opinion do you believe McIntosh electronics have any potential for synergy with ATC 'speakers? Have you any listening experience of McIntosh amp's with ATC 'speakers? If so.How did the combination sound?


Your place isn't on or near Friargate,is it?


B.T.W.How's the weather in Derby?...Must be pretty nippy.


Taa very much,m' duck!   


Regards.


BABUR.



Hi BABUR


Thanks for your post.


I am busy at the moment so i'll respond later on today. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



'Ey up Rick,


I appreciate you're a busy bloke,but i just wanted to jog your memory for a response to my earlier query above.regarding the potential for synergy between McIntosh electronics(C2300 & MC501 mono-block amp's) & ATC 'speakers.


Also whether you know if ATC's new 34mm HF unit will be used in any of ATC's domestic 'speakers or will the larger HF unit be restricted to their larger studio monitors?


Regards & thanks.


BABUR.

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
Pistol Pete1:
After having the Tannoy DC2000's and now the KEF Q500's, I'm afraid I'll have to put my  vote towards dual concentric/Uni-Q (very similar) technology when it comes to tweeters....


 Agreed.  Although it's worth noting that the Uni-Q version has gone through multiple iterations, some more successful than others...

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

Babur72:

MUSICRAFT:

maxflinn:

ive read many posts on here regarding both types, some prefer soft domes, some metal, and some say that there isn't much between them once they're partnered well..


well my own observations based on my old monitor audio rx6's and my current dynaudios are that in my room at least, and with my yamaha amp (which i never got to hear my rx6's with) the soft dome tweeters are much nicer..


i used to tire of listening to my rx6's after a couple of hours, but i can listen to my dyns for days (and literally have done), the highs are so detailed yet somehow smooth and easy on my ears, it's probably the wrong word but "velvety" keeps springing to mind, and there's no sibilence at all, just crisp,deft little sounds of cymbals, etc. very nice indeed..


any views?? 



Hi maxflinn


I like both. Dynaudio's Esotar2, Monitor Audio's Platinum Ribbon, Focal's beryllium and Yamaha's beryllium (as used in the NS1000) are the finest HF units i've heard. Smile ATC's first ever HF unit promises to be exceptional. Big Smile


Btw, how are you getting on with your speaker cable?


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



Allright Rick,


I was under the impression that ATC made all of their drive units in-house.If,as you state,they don't manufacture their own HF drive units,then where do they currently source them from?


Should we expect ATC's new HF drive units to be a radical departure from technologies previously employed ie: Metal-Alloys,Ribbons etc.?


And how long will it be before we can see & hear the new models/variants for ourselves.


Regards & thanks.


BABUR.



Hi Babur72


HF units for the Entry Series are sourced from Vifa and for Classic, Tower and Professional ranges from Seas.


There will be two bespoke ATC HF units. A 34mm which is now complete for use in SCM200 and SCM300 montors. A 25mm version is in development. From what i understand these ATC HF units are based on their studio Soft Dome mid range unit.


We should see the 34mm HF unit on sale next year however there is no time scale on the 25mm unit.


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



'Ey up Rick,


I'm most grateful for your informative reply.


Do you know whether the 34mm HF unit will be used in any of ATC's domestic 'speakers or will the larger HF unit be restricted to their larger studio monitors?...Unless i'm mistaken.I think the SCM300 has a 34mm HF driver,hasn't it(?). 


As my signature shows i bought the C2300 tube pre & MC501 solid-state,class A/B,output transformer power-amps.In your opinion do you believe McIntosh electronics have any potential for synergy with ATC 'speakers? Have you any listening experience of McIntosh amp's with ATC 'speakers? If so.How did the combination sound?


Your place isn't on or near Friargate,is it?


B.T.W.How's the weather in Derby?...Must be pretty nippy.


Taa very much,m' duck!   


Regards.


BABUR.



Hi BABUR


Thanks for your post.


I am busy at the moment so i'll respond later on today. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.


All the best


Rick @ Musicraft



'Ey up Rick,


I appreciate you're a busy bloke,but i just wanted to jog your memory for a response to my earlier query above.regarding the potential for synergy between McIntosh electronics(C2300 & MC501 mono-block amp's) & ATC 'speakers.


Also whether you know if ATC's new 34mm HF unit will be used in any of ATC's domestic 'speakers or will the larger HF unit be restricted to their larger studio monitors?


Regards & thanks.


BABUR.

Hi BABUR

Thanks for your post.

Firstly i am sorry for my late reply as i've been very busy over the last few days.

Yes, McIntosh amplification and ATC monitors work together superbly. I have a couple of clients who are happily using this combination.

From what i understand ATC's new 34mm HF unit will also be used in the domestic SCM300 monitors.

Musicraft is not in Friargate. Musicraft is situated on the junction betwen London Road and Midland Road (in between Derby Train Station and the Westfield Shopping Centre).

Btw, yes it is rather cold here .

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

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Re: soft dome v metal dome tweeters....do you have a preferance?
maxflinn:
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maxflinn:

you're dead right there pp, ive currently got dire straits greatest hits playing on a loop and as corny as it sounds, ive got over that analytical stage and am really just enjoying the music and all the little nuances of it..ive found the perfect system for me in my room Cool not through extensive demoing, but through a bit of experimentation, logic, trust in advice and a bit of luckWink

Great cd Smile

Ive owned B&W's and Monitor audio's with metal domes, every other speaker ive owned has been a soft dome.

I prefer soft domes due to their smooth, non fatiguing sound, but saying that, the monitor audio Bronze 2's i had were the best budget speakers ive owned.

The Seas excel tweeter in my ATC's is the best hf unit ive heard. Its extremely dynamic and detailed.

I can't wait to hear ATC's own hf unit when its relesed. Hopefully early next year Wink
This is intended to be a retrofit for current ATC owners

Cheers
Matt 

if i ever get the chance to listen to some of these atc speakers with their funky new soft dome tweeter ill have to make sure and not take itEmbarrassed

well. not for at least a year anywaysWink


Hi Maxflinn

If you decide to make the move to ATC and want a demo, give me a shout Wink

Cheers
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matt, please don't tempt me with such offers, i'm very impressionable and i've got some work lined upWink.. omg, chebby was right, i am going insaneBig Smile

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matt, please don't tempt me with such offers, i'm very impressionable and i've got some work lined upWink.. omg, chebby was right, i am going insaneBig Smile

Good news on the work front then Smile  

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