The whole point of ABX is to determine whether the apparent differences really exist.
Oh I see, so at least one of them is badly flawed?
Main system: Mac Mini 2011 > HRT II+ DAC • Cyrus 2 & PSX • Cyrus tuner • MS 10i speakers [on loan]
Also cluttering-up the place: Thorens TD160 (no cart) • Marantz CD 63 mkII KI & PM66 KI • Technics SL-P777 • Nakamichi DR-1
May as well ask me to compare the difference in taste between an apple and an orange blindfolded.
Does a blindfold affect taste, as well as hearing ?
Only if you're eating it, albeit granted, it's not much of a blindfold then...
Onkyo TX-NR818 / Tannoy Revolution DC4 (bi-amped)
AVI Laboratory Series CD Player
I use a dark chocolate blindfold!
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To the OP, IME the sonic differences are as big as anything else you choose to compare in "hi-fi".
However, maybe in absolute terms, the differences are really quite small, but to those of use that seem to have more money than sense (myself firmly included in this group I hasten to add) believe that the differences are night and day and worth paying vast chunks of money for. I'm struggling to hear that much differences between spotify 320kbs and CDA, and as you know from my DAC experience, there aint much point in spending a wad in that direction either, but I'm pretty sure I could tell my M2 from a K2 from a Cyrus of any denomination.
JRiver MC17 -> Cambridge Audio DACmagic+ -> Roksan Caspian M2 -> ProAc D18
Yes. I think if it can drive the rated ohms of your speakers, and if distortion is below .1%, every amp sounds the same. This endless and expensive search for costly high-end amps is all manufacturers' hype (IMHO).
No, I don't think so because the frequency level varies between 20 - 20 000 Hz the normal human range of hearing.
Turn your statement around a little and apply the same logic to CD players
A £10 portable and £1000 top end player have virtually identical specifications with regard to frequency response, distortion, channel separation etc etc and many of these figures are orders of magnitude better than any amplifier could hope to achieve. Therefore... all CD players sound the same :)
As outlined in my earlier post, the reasons are complex but one thing you must do... trust what you hear.
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Native_bon, I know you say none of your work has been officially released but do you have links to anything you've produced? I'd be really interested to hear some
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So, do all amplifiers sound the same?
Let me answer your question with a question
Do all ears hear the same?
Do all eyes see the same?
Do we all love the same tastes?
Maybe all amps can sound the same; not sure if everyone would love it, though.
B&O Playmaker streamer>beolab 9 white
Panasonic blu-ray> Samsung 40d6500
A lot of entry level amps sound quit similar maybe thats why there's these people who think all amps sound the same.. Most high end amp manafacturers have a signiture sound and I could tell most blindfolded although some could sound similar enough for some not too notice i suppose.. The difference from my old Cyrus to my new (on Sat ) Electrocompaniet amp is a big difference between high end sounds IMO..
Yes Something like Arcam, Cambridge, NAD etc compared to Cyrus or Musical fidelity (class d) is extremely obvious and you'd have to be deaf to not hear the difference. Even with tone controls it's the presentation that is completely different and why I have struggled to find a high end amp sound I like..
Electrocompaniet PI 2 | Naim ND5 XS | Chord Epic | ProAc Studio 115
Probably the single most unreliable part of the hifi chain. Whilst everything else is measurable and can be logically explained, even cables, your hearing, connected to your vision and often some wishful thinking is for sure capable of making a right old mess of things ... or of course create magic. It is however is a bit of a hit and miss affair ... like most things hifi.
Great isn't it?
Pretty ... and pretty proud of it
I don't care, I choose on looks anyway
on another note, are there really that many amps with comparable specs? Will Electrocompaniet Nemos have similar specs to 600w McIntosh or Bryston mono blocks? Or is there anything in the specs that helps explain the differences in sound?
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