'New' tweeters arrived this morning. Called local hi-fi shop to arrange fitting.
They fitted/soldered them this afternoon (only charged £10).
Been playing Bowie, Sly & The Family Stone, The Cure, XTC, a few 'Outnumbered' episodes from DVD and Radio 4 (currently The Archers) to get used to them a bit.
So far so excellent! Wasn't expecting much from them yet. (brand new/never used tweeters with a reputation for being harsh until broken in).
Totally sub optimal positioning whilst testing them (on top of my R3s with a bit of thin bubble wrap between them to prevent scratches).
Will dig out Partington Trophy stands, spikes and Blu-Tac at the weekend for a better listen, but think they have already 'made the grade'.
If all ok then will start looking into wall brackets/little wall shelves next week (for them to go onto the spare room wall eventually).
Once that's all done, and they are packed away, I will need to consider a nice old amp (or receiver) to use with them.
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Chebby, were the old tweeters blown, or do they just degrade over time and need replacement?
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One wasn't working when I took delivery. The other was fine.
The elderly gentleman I bought them from probably didn't even realise one had blown. (I didn't pursue the matter as replacements were easy and cheap to find.)
However I decided to buy two ('new/unused old stock' boxed) tweeters so they matched better.
I don't think such things degrade over time. Plenty of 10, 20, 30 year-old (and even older) speakers out there with original tweeters still working to oppose that notion.
The Audax TW010F1 tweeters were pretty ubiquitous and used by Wharfedale, Goodmans, Mordaunt Short, JPW (and many other brands) over many years.
You'll find speakers on ebay - much older than mine - with fully working, original, Audax tweeters on any day. (Even some suprisingly expensive models used them).
Thanks, I only ask as I'm picking up a pair later today (after your glowing praise for them). Any tips on positioning?
Stands or wall brackets to raise them from the floor. As close to the wall as you like (as close as connections allow). Keep away from corners.
Thanks, I only ask as I'm picking up a pair later today ...
.....and I couldn't pick them up until late evening, and straight back to work today (still here...). They're smaller than I expected though. I imagined they'd be a similar size to my Ruark Swordsman
They're smaller than I expected though. I imagined they'd be a similar size to my Ruark Swordsman
I thought I had posted the dimensions (or a link to a site that listed them) somewhere.
Anyway, if you Google... JPW Sonata dimensions ....the first hit tells you they are 320mm high x 230mm wide x 215mm deep.
(Too late for you, but this will eventually come up on future Google searches for others wanting to know.)
I've only had time for a fleeting listen so far, but they sound very good. More open, expressive and detailed than the 9.1's, although they lack the bass weight and dynamic drive of the Wharfedale's. They're approximately a foot from the rear wall, so I'll experiment with positioning when I can to see if this redresses the balance slightly. For £25, fantastic value
I haven't tested mine that far away from a wall. They were bought expressly to go against a wall (to save space in a small spare room) hence my choice of small speakers with no ports.
Try putting them against the wall as close as stands/skirting boards/connections allow. (Obviously not with all your other gear or furniture between them.)
Give them an hour or so - quite loud - to loosen them up a bit. They probably haven't been used for ages.
I've re-read that and my comment could be misconstrued as a negative. They sound very good. My 9.1's on the other hand seem to have this almost hypnotic quality to the bass, which really drives the music along (that I haven't noticed with other speakers), so to compare, nothing has really given me that sense of drive elsewhere anyway.
The Sonata's are like a veil has been lifted in comparison. They're more communicative and insightful. A touch more warmth and welly and I'll be dangerously close to being happy
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