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RE: Roksan K2 CDS Vs Marantz CD63SE

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....classical, which is all I listen to...
Blimey. Really?

Not sure I understand your response???? If you're saying that I've got a narrow,minority interest, that does not exactly mirror yours, I take that as a compliment.

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The amp and speakers are set in stone, with the CD player the only thing in flux.

MP, are you still looking for a CDP?

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CnoEvil wrote:

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matthewpiano wrote:

The amp and speakers are set in stone, with the CD player the only thing in flux.

MP, are you still looking for a CDP?

Yes.  I'm not in a mad rush because the Rotel is sounding very nice (better than the K2 ever was IMO), but given its age I am keen to find a new player that will see me through for some time.  I love the Opera Consonance CD120 Linear, but it might be a bit of a stretch.

As said above, the amp and speakers are set in stone.  Absolutely love them.

Any thoughts Cno?

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matthewpiano wrote:

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matthewpiano wrote:

The amp and speakers are set in stone, with the CD player the only thing in flux.

MP, are you still looking for a CDP?

Yes.  I'm not in a mad rush because the Rotel is sounding very nice (better than the K2 ever was IMO), but given its age I am keen to find a new player that will see me through for some time.  I love the Opera Consonance CD120 Linear, but it might be a bit of a stretch.

As said above, the amp and speakers are set in stone.  Absolutely love them.

Any thoughts Cno?

Hiya M/P.

If you're liking the Rotel, maybe check out the RCD 1520? I just bought one on spec really - took a chance. I have to say I was really pleased with it when I listened to it. I'm not nearly as proficient as some on here (yourself included) at describing what something sounds like, or whether or not one is better than another, but I found it to be very revealing and also natural sounding. Have I listened to anything else in recent times? No. Just sharing my thoughts...

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Im wondering why there's no

Im wondering why there's no comment from AVI fanatics or Im missin' some posts.

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matthewpiano wrote:

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CnoEvil wrote:

matthewpiano wrote:

The amp and speakers are set in stone, with the CD player the only thing in flux.

MP, are you still looking for a CDP?

Yes.  I'm not in a mad rush because the Rotel is sounding very nice (better than the K2 ever was IMO), but given its age I am keen to find a new player that will see me through for some time.  I love the Opera Consonance CD120 Linear, but it might be a bit of a stretch.

As said above, the amp and speakers are set in stone.  Absolutely love them.

Any thoughts Cno?

Sorry for hi-jacking your question to Cno. Have you thought about Audio Analogue Crescendo CDP? I've heard the amp and it sounds pretty musical and natural, but lacked, for me, a drop of edge that I like. Whether the CDP is a carbon copy of the amp or not couldn't really say, but it may well come the closest to the Opera you've been mentioning.

Amp; CDP; Turntable; Tuner; Speakers

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I have to say it..... I

I have to say it..... I apologize in advance.

Change your interconnects.

In your Sig MP I note you use Chord Chamelien - if you can be bothered pls audition alternatives.

I know, I know its summer and the last thing we need is crazy talk...... but imo Chord make aggressive sounding interconnects that fatigue. (in my set anyway) over long listening periods.

It'd be worth investigating alternatives - start by reviews that suggest that a particular brand has the 'sound' you want.

I own a marantz cd63 (my first player) it saw off an arcam 73t in its time but the NAD c660 has exposed its lack of 'refinement'.

(on this occasion it may be worth taking Ricks usual advice ref 75 strand standard interconnects)

But if your system is up to it (on paper it is) it my well be worth trying other interconnects with the Roksan, it's a capable disc spinner.

It'll cost you more or Less the same as a 2nd hand player without the bulk and headaches.

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Freddy58 wrote:

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matthewpiano wrote:

CnoEvil wrote:

matthewpiano wrote:

The amp and speakers are set in stone, with the CD player the only thing in flux.

MP, are you still looking for a CDP?

Yes.  I'm not in a mad rush because the Rotel is sounding very nice (better than the K2 ever was IMO), but given its age I am keen to find a new player that will see me through for some time.  I love the Opera Consonance CD120 Linear, but it might be a bit of a stretch.

As said above, the amp and speakers are set in stone.  Absolutely love them.

Any thoughts Cno?

Hiya M/P.

If you're liking the Rotel, maybe check out the RCD 1520? I just bought one on spec really - took a chance. I have to say I was really pleased with it when I listened to it. I'm not nearly as proficient as some on here (yourself included) at describing what something sounds like, or whether or not one is better than another, but I found it to be very revealing and also natural sounding. Have I listened to anything else in recent times? No. Just sharing my thoughts...

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated and I actually think you've made a very good suggestion that I hadn't thought of.  I'm happy with the sound of the RCD965BX but it is approx 20 years old and now I'm getting more settled with my system I want to put a long-term CD player in place.  A new Rotel could be a great option.  I'll look into it!

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Any thoughts Cno?

Yes, possibly.

Just in case you would be interested in an original Linn Karik/Numerik, that's in great condition, has a known history and with well over half its laser life left.

The reason I know so much, is that I used to own it. I traded it in a few months ago with Lyric Hifi, due to lack of use. It shouldn't be hard to buy, as it's now over 20 years old (maybe that's just too old for you?).

Back when my first child was born, I didn't want to keep the LP12 (which I sold to a friend), but the problem was that I hadn't auditioned any CDP that came close. When Linn launched this player, it was the first time I heard a sound that I was prepared to give up my TT for. As things turned out, I was so busy at work (often 7 days a week), and bringing up 4 kids, that in the end, it didn't get that much use.

I bought it new from Michael (Lyric) and it cost a bl**dy fortune; but it was one of the best CDPs around at that time. To get a very good idea about it, read this Stereophile review from that time (especially the description of the way it sounds on page 4):  http://www.stereophile.com/cdplayers/930/index.html

It will not give you a ballsy, upfront, dramatic sound, but a refined, organic, analogue like one.....if you like the former, then it's not for you. If interested, I can give you Michael's contact details; or if you have any questions, or need any help, let me know.....FWIW. I would like to think it would end up in the home of someone who would appreciate it. 

 

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Thompsonuxb wrote:

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I have to say it..... I apologize in advance.

Change your interconnects.

In your Sig MP I note you use Chord Chamelien - if you can be bothered pls audition alternatives.

I know, I know its summer and the last thing we need is crazy talk...... but imo Chord make aggressive sounding interconnects that fatigue. (in my set anyway) over long listening periods.

It'd be worth investigating alternatives - start by reviews that suggest that a particular brand has the 'sound' you want.

I own a marantz cd63 (my first player) it saw off an arcam 73t in its time but the NAD c660 has exposed its lack of 'refinement'.

(on this occasion it may be worth taking Ricks usual advice ref 75 strand standard interconnects)

But if your system is up to it (on paper it is) it my well be worth trying other interconnects with the Roksan, it's a capable disc spinner.

It'll cost you more or Less the same as a 2nd hand player without the bulk and headaches.

Hi.  Thanks for your thoughts.

I have to say Chord Chameleon doesn't sound at all aggressive in my system.  I own several different interconnects and I really like the Chord interconnects and the Rumour 2 speaker cable.

I'm not unhappy with the sound.  In fact I'm very happy with the RCD965BX, but I want to be in a position where I've not got concerns about long-term reliability due to age. 

I tried the Roksan over and over again with different cables and in different systems.  Whilst there were some things I liked about it, overall I thought it was over-priced and un-involving.  Personally I think the Rotel is a far better player.  I sold the Roksan some time ago and don't regret it.

I'm going to look at the newer Rotel players as suggested above.

Thanks again for the time taken to give your input.

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Hi again M/P

Hi again M/P

I made a mistake with my posting, sorry. I was in fact referring to the RCD 1570.

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You've already sold it?

You've already sold it?

Oh, ok then, thought it was being repaired.

I have to admit when I auditioned amps a while ago it was my player of choice over the Audiolab 8200.

Suited the music I bought with me anyway.

Ah well......

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Thompsonuxb wrote:

I have to say it..... I apologize in advance.

Change your interconnects.

In your Sig MP I note you use Chord Chamelien - if you can be bothered pls audition alternatives.

I know, I know its summer and the last thing we need is crazy talk...... but imo Chord make aggressive sounding interconnects that fatigue. (in my set anyway) over long listening periods.

It'd be worth investigating alternatives - start by reviews that suggest that a particular brand has the 'sound' you want.

I own a marantz cd63 (my first player) it saw off an arcam 73t in its time but the NAD c660 has exposed its lack of 'refinement'.

(on this occasion it may be worth taking Ricks usual advice ref 75 strand standard interconnects)

But if your system is up to it (on paper it is) it my well be worth trying other interconnects with the Roksan, it's a capable disc spinner.

It'll cost you more or Less the same as a 2nd hand player without the bulk and headaches.

Hi.  Thanks for your thoughts.

I have to say Chord Chameleon doesn't sound at all aggressive in my system.  I own several different interconnects and I really like the Chord interconnects and the Rumour 2 speaker cable.

I'm not unhappy with the sound.  In fact I'm very happy with the RCD965BX, but I want to be in a position where I've not got concerns about long-term reliability due to age. 

I tried the Roksan over and over again with different cables and in different systems.  Whilst there were some things I liked about it, overall I thought it was over-priced and un-involving.  Personally I think the Rotel is a far better player.  I sold the Roksan some time ago and don't regret it.

I'm going to look at the newer Rotel players as suggested above.

Thanks again for the time taken to give your input.

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Hi. Yes, it did go back to

Hi. Yes, it did go back to Roksan who fitted a new display module and checked everything over before I sold it.  Their service was excellent, but the player wasn't the right one for me.

Thanks again for your thought.

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Also considering the RCD-12

Also considering the RCD-12 now as it is just that bit more affordable than the 1570.  Might try to hear that and a Rega Apollo-R for a start.  Possibly re-visit the Exposure 1010 CD player too.

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