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Rega Brio R too laid back

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I recently purchased a Gold Note CD-7 player to go through Rega Brio R amp and Rega RS-1 speakers. I use Atlas Elements interconnect and Rega FSC Quatro speaker cable. I cannot but feel that the combo is sounding slightly too warm to my liking. I miss high frequences a fair bit. It almost sounds as if there is a veil or blanket over the sound. Is there anything I could do to get more top end out of my setup? I was thinking of a DAC but would Rega DAC cater for the things I am after. Or would I be better off with a different, more analytical, DAC? Thans for all comments and suggestions!  

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Hi, 

 

I recently purchased a Gold Note CD-7 player to go through Rega Brio R amp and Rega RS-1 speakers. I use Atlas Elements interconnect and Rega FSC Quatro speaker cable. I cannot but feel that the combo is sounding slightly too warm to my liking. I miss high frequences a fair bit. It almost sounds as if there is a veil or blanket over the sound. Is there anything I could do to get more top end out of my setup? I was thinking of a DAC but would Rega DAC cater for the things I am after. Or would I be better off with a different, more analytical, DAC? Thans for all comments and suggestions!  

 

i think the problem is you CD player, i did a demo of the ATC SCM11 with a Perreaux 80i and a Gold Note CD7 if i'm not mistaken is a valve cd player. 

And i felt the same as you, and they changed the cd player for a Perreaux as well, and the vail was lifted... Wink

 

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

Thanks for that. Gold Note CD7 is not a valve CD player. http://www.goldnote.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=88&Itemid=68&lang=en

I also tried the amp with an old Panasonic portable CD player (with a separate line out) ,for what its worth, and found the overall sound signature pretty similar, so I guess it must be Brio still. I will fill up my speaker stands, and see if that tames that bass a little bit and brings some more clarity into my system. 

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Thanks for that. Gold Note CD7 is not a valve CD player. http://www.goldnote.it/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=88&Itemid=68&lang=en

I also tried the amp with an old Panasonic portable CD player (with a separate line out) ,for what its worth, and found the overall sound signature pretty similar, so I guess it must be Brio still. I will fill up my speaker stands, and see if that tames that bass a little bit and brings some more clarity into my system. 

And why not try another set of speakers? I love my combo Brio R and Dynaudio Excite X12, they have a detaild, vivid and neutral over all presentation! 

I find the RS3 a bit muffled, and the twiter is the same, never eard the RS1.

 

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

The CD player in my demo was a Audio Note, not a Gold Note! 

Sorry fot the miss understood!

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

I recently heard that system (Rega) and thought the same, said to dealer that and he changed the speakers to B&W CM1s and the veil was lifted straight away, so I think it is more the speakers than the amp. Im not saying the CM1s are the speakers to buy as I thought they had too much bass and needed quite a bit of power to drive them. Very disappointed with the RS1s. 

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

Rega speakers are warm and comfortable sounding, so I would agree with those who have pointed the finger in that direction.

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I would try some AE 301s if you can or those Dynaudios  someone else mentioned, try for a home demo.

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

Thanks, guys, for your thoughts. Will try to get some different speakers from my dealer to see if that would bring some punch into my ssystem

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

There's another big Rega fan who's heard the Brio-R with Neat Motive 3 speakers. If your budget allows it'll be wothwhile having a dem. Like the others I think the amp isn't the culprit. never heard of Gold Note so wouldn't know where/how to advise. Certainly worth looking at speakers with Neats, MA GX50 and PMC DB1is.

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

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Thanks, guys, for your thoughts. Will try to get some different speakers from my dealer to see if that would bring some punch into my ssystem

 

Before you bought the Rega combination didn't you demo it ?

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Rega Brio R too laid back.....

 

 

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

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I recently purchased a Gold Note CD-7 player to go through Rega Brio R amp and Rega RS-1 speakers.It almost sounds as if there is a veil or blanket over the sound.
I never have any experience of a "veil"; nor is it "laid back", nor especially bright. The Rega Brio-R is notable for its honesty/transparency, rather than a special sound or character (akin to KEF LS50's in speakers, and TQ Blacks in speaker cables).

A veil/blanket affect is commonly associated with new equipment that has not yet travelled far enough through the settling-in period. The system sound is a result of every component working as a team in a specific physical environment working with a specific data source. A very new component can "cloud" everything, in which case one has to wait a day or two for the actual result to appear. Then one can but substitute components one at a time to find the culprit.

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

Thanks! However, the amp/speakers combo has been playing for almost three weeks now. The type of congestion of the new equipment you referred to did indeed clear up in a few days. I really hoped that the treble side would clear up too but it has not happened and I doubt it will happen. I think I really need to demo some different and more detailed speakers, as suggested above, to see if that would change things more to my liking. 

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

Thanks! However, the amp/speakers combo has been playing for almost three weeks now. The type of congestion of the new equipment you referred to did indeed clear up in a few days. I really hoped that the treble side would clear up too but it has not happened and I doubt it will happen. I think I really need to demo some different and more detailed speakers, as suggested above, to see if that would change things more to my liking. 

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RE: Rega Brio R too laid back

I have to admit I made a rookie mistake not to demo amp and speakers together. I listened RS1s with a generic Marantz amp in the dealers rather noisy storage room. They sounded fine at the time and I only expected them to sound better with Brio R. In all honesty, they still sound good but just too warm. I like my hi-hats and cymbals shimerring, please. 

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