...simple question to start, which of these amps is better? I have medium room (5m x 5m) and listen at non-rave levels mostly.
cambridge audio 651c, rega brio-r, dynaudio DM7
you have a 651C in your sig so why do you want to change?
Whats your budget?
Do you need a phono stage?
All nice amps in there own way - what is it you are trying to achieve?
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It all depends on the kind of presentation and features you are looking for. The Rega has a fine phono stage and is a lively and entertaining amplifier, while the Audiolab is a line level unit with more power and a firm emphasise on analysis rather than enthusiasm. From my experience, the Cambridge isn't up the the sonic standards of the other two.
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I have not heard the Cambridge, the Rega I found dissappointing rather lacking in power and struggled to drive speakers like the CM1s, the Audiolab seemed OK but is more money. If I were you I would try the Arcam A19, Creek 50A and Roksan Kandy K2, for me its between the Creek and RK.
BUT you need to hear them with your speakers.
£500 is my limit, and i can get all these amps for this this price or less.
My sig says 651c, as this is my cd player. And it is an outstanding player. I am not after a phono stage, but have heard the rega and did really like the sound. It did seem to drive my dynaudios with no problem. Although my old sherwood seems to be driving them ok, so presuming anything modern will drive them better. I heard the cambridge 351a and did like it, and heard the audiolab, and at the time did prefer the rega, but found the 8200 incredibly insightful and had massive soundstage compared to the rega. But the rega just sounded nicer to listen to. But these auditions were several months ago, and i am going to have to re-listen before i buy.
Interesting what you say about the cambridge Ketan. Maybe the Brio will be the one. I listen to all types of music really. from rock to classical. Anything that sounds good to me. hip hop, dance, jazz.......
My only concern with the rega i think is the slight lack of power/oomf. But maybe in my smallish room i won't notice it at all as my sherwood is only ever on 1/4 volume here, although when i took it to audition my speakers in larger room, the volume went to half way.
Another option if the Arcam A19 is too expensive then you can get the Arcam A18 for £300. I have heard the Arcam A19 and would say its has better detail than the Rega, I know one person on here who has upgraded his Rega to the Arcam A19. The A18 is meant to be similar to the A19.
I do have Dynaudios X12 in the end of my Rega Brio R and a living room with 42 sqm, and the Brio R is doing an amaizing JOB, the Brio R is special Amp, it out shines more expencive ones! It connects me to music!
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I wouldnt worry abour the Brio R power rating!
It would have no trouble withyour speakers/room
I did hear the a-19 and knew within about ten seconds it wasnt for me. I am thinking it was probably due to my speakers sensitvity. WHF say that the amp needs very careful matching, and a higher sensitive speaker is needed. This could be why the a19 did not sound good on my audition.
Have you tried the Rega yet?
I would giv ethe Roksan Kandy K2 a go.
It really is a no brainer!
You have discounted the Arcam
Your Budget is £500
The Rega Brio R is £498 and is probably the best performing stereo amp under £600
Rega Brio-R : worm and smooth
Audiolab 8200A - neutral and accurate
Cabridge Audio 651A - bright and sharp
The Rega and Audiolab are better than the CA, they are not in the same league .
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Not sure if the Rega will be much better than the Arcam, as I have said before at least one person on here has traded up from the Rega to the Arcam, your speakers have low sensitivity 86db at 4Ohms so the Rega maybe better.
I thought the A19 was better than the Rega but I only had a short demo, speakers were B&W CM1s, which are not sensitive either.
The OP has discounted the Arcam - he didnt like the sound!
Both good amps but I wouldnt say tthe Arcam is a better amp......just a different presentaion which generally is personal!
Yes I know, just giving my opinion. Yes you are correct they are different, WHF picked the Arcam A19 as group winner in this month WHF mag, which did not inc. the Rega. The Rega was best amp last year under £500, the Roksan was best amp. under £1000 in 2011. The only way is to hear them, preferrably at home with your speakers.
I think the reason the Rega wasnt included as It was amps up to £800 wasnt it? Just goes to show you really need to hear amps & speakers yourself and see what you orefer!
In an ideal world get a demo at home!
And I wouldnt take WHF reviews as gospel!
Only your ears matter!
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