because I have heard there's no difference
Was this in your own experience or what someone told you? Either way, it's no odds to me and yes, I'd heard the same as you, but by the same token, others recommended it.
Having tried it out for myself, it works. As Steve says, it's a cheap and easy exercise to undertake.
As far as I'm concerned, anything that better controls the driver movement and dynamic peaks in music - and there's more than you might realise - is a good thing. Four amps dedicated to each driver does that. One of the reasons I bought my current amp was the means that I could bi-amp without having to buy separate power amps and the end results have been extremely satisfying.
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AVI Lab Series CD player / various cables
I'm pretty sceptical with studio monitors. I think I'll go for Usher S520-II and place them on table
Interesting but ultimately safe choice. You have the Onkyo so I guess it makes some sort of sense.
Not having a go at you in particular ntune, but it is interesting that a large number of posters come on this forum asking for speakers/system that delivers powerful, punchy bass, but are not prepared to look 'outside the box'.
Active, pro monitor type speakers are excellent in this respect but most end up buying a pair of decent but ultimately quite average bookshelf speakers that will struggle if pushed with any kind of bass driven music.
I believe it's easier to tweak and update the setup with additional channels and subwoofer afterwards on hifi speakers than studio monitors
You can tweak, update, upgrade and add to a passive system, no doubt at considerable expense and still not end up with the sound you say you want in your original post.
Which was kind of the point I was trying to make.
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,
And we remember why we came.
It is things like this that make me really miss not being 'in the trade' any longer.
I understand exactly where you are coming from and would love to be able try these things for myself, something that as a dealer I was always able to do. I had plenty of experience of bi-amping in those days but never with an AV reciever, it would be interesting.
Are you saying that 500$ speakers + 500$ subwoofer won't be able to archieve the same punchiness and impact as 500$ studio monitors? By punchiness, I mean that "punch in the chest" feel.
How about the overall sound quality on studio monitors? I guess they sound right just at the right angle. How badly the sound quality would suffer if I placed them on a table? Are they easy to use as computer speakers?
I listened to a pair of Mackie MR8's yesterday. Under $500 and all the punch you'll need. Fair sized boxes though and you'd probably be able to afford Isolation pads to decouple them from the table. Just as easy to use as computer speakers with 3 types of connections, HF and LF setup options.
Have posted in the active speakers club about my purchase of the smaller MR5's
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Sadly it looks like the OP is going to put the speakers on a table, even with isolation pads I doubt such a setup would be satisfactory, properly set up I am sure they would be fine though my personal preference would be for the slightly more expensive Pre-sonus Eris 8.
Trying to explain the advantages of active monitors in these kinds of setup becomes repetitive, and to be honest most users want the 'bling' factor of well known brands to show off to their mates.
If you really want a powerful punchy bass at this sort of price level then the active speakers are the way to go, the conventional wisdom of this board does not agree though, and I am becoming bored with the arguments.
It is generally harder to get to hear active monitors in a suitable setup/environment and understandably this puts a lot of people off, so few hi-fi enthusiasts get to hear these speakers properly set up which I think is a shame, but that's the way it is.
What effect placing speakers on the table instead of stands have on the performance?
Well, I just ordered Presonus Eris 8 for 400€. I hope for your own good that I won't be dissapointed
No pressure there then Dave
Gumetree is your friend (or Ebay)! I picked up most of the stuff I've had that's fulfilled the hobbyist side of me on those two. The mainstay stuff (Onkyo gear, speakers and the SA7001-KI) from dealers. Lets me muck about with trying stuff out and then move it on. I think all of the stuff I've had off Ebay has sold at around the price I paid, minus a tenner or so in Ebay fees. So there's been a slight loss, but by and large, I can live with that.
This may be a leftfield product, but I would not hesitate to get the Cambridge Audio Minx - the larger satellites, and one of the larger 2 subs. I had them and they were excellent. When I moved places the sound changed for the worse - but it was my fault as I now realised the sub NEEDS to be placed in a corner, which I didn't do when I moved. I bitterly regret selling it.
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Fair comment RS, but I am keeping away from the devil hi-fi at the moment, I do tend to get involved and, as you can guess, a bit obsessive.
I genuinely miss having all the bits and bobs 'to hand' as in the old days, so I content myself with hanging out with some old friends who are in the pro-audio business, hence my current familiarity with active monitors etc.
I'm happy that I purchased Eris 8's. They sound nice on the bare desktop. Does the sound get even better with proper stands?
If they have to stay on the desktop try and find some way to lift them a little so that they decouple from the flat top. Tilting them slightly back might help as will the bass adjustment switches on the rear (acoustic space).
They may not be big enough so you would need to measure up but try these.....
Audioengine desktop stands, might just be big enough. These are the larger of the two models.
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