Perreaux amps
Can't find any dealers for Electrocompaniet to get a home demo.
I think AE stock Audio Analogue, but I've hounded them for the dem of the Perreaux so much, don't really like to switch my attention to another.
Any particular models of these brands you'd recommend Cno?
Cheers
Mac
Electro's knowledge of Electrocompaniet is much greater than mine, but I would be looking at ECI-5 Mk 11: http://www.kronosav.com/products#ecwid:mode=product&product=6476578 The Audio Analogue model that I am thinking about is the Maestro Settanta Rev 2.0 (£2500): http://www.audioemotion.co.uk/products/218/ I would recommend you give AE a ring on the various merits of Perreaux vs Audio Analogue vs Sugden. It would at least give you an idea if it's worth pursuing. Cno
I know from previous conversations with the guys from AE, they
highly rate Perreaux.
BTW, had an Email from a dealer today saying the Lavardin IT does in fact have tape in and outs.
Cheers
Mac
I know from previous conversations with the guys from AE, they
highly rate Perreaux.
BTW, had an Email from a dealer today saying the Lavardin IT does in fact have tape in and outs.
Cheers
Mac
Looking forward to what you think.....there's certainly some seriously talented amps under consideration.
Can't find any dealers for Electrocompaniet to get a home demo.
I think AE stock Audio Analogue, but I've hounded them for the dem of the Perreaux so much, don't really like to switch my attention to another.
Any particular models of these brands you'd recommend Cno?
Cheers
Mac
Electro's knowledge of Electrocompaniet is much greater than mine, but I would be looking at ECI-5 Mk 11: http://www.kronosav.com/products#ecwid:mode=product&product=6476578 The Audio Analogue model that I am thinking about is the Maestro Settanta Rev 2.0 (£2500): http://www.audioemotion.co.uk/products/218/ I would recommend you give AE a ring on the various merits of Perreaux vs Audio Analogue vs Sugden. It would at least give you an idea if it's worth pursuing. Cno
I know from previous conversations with the guys from AE, they
highly rate Perreaux.
BTW, had an Email from a dealer today saying the Lavardin IT does in fact have tape in and outs.
Cheers
Mac
If it can be of any help...I actually preferred the IT to the Sudgen, but I think there is quite a step up between the Lavardin It and the AMS35i. But again the AMS will need a lot of energy...probably even more than the Sudgen you want to change.
If it can be of any help, this is the back of the Lavardin IT. From line 1 to 4
If it can be of any help...I actually preferred the IT to the Sudgen,
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This actually surprise me a little....
I personally never really tought about the comaresion Sugden -> Lavardin IT
So for know I'not shore I would folow you on this...Me be you can explain a little?
Audio Destination kindly agreed to a home demo of the Electrocompaniet EC5 MKII, so will be trying out that and the Perreaux come Thursday.
Cheers
Mac
Fantastic !
I look forward to hearing how they compare and your thoughts and findings about the ECI5 mk2 
Audio Destination kindly agreed to a home demo of the Electrocompaniet EC5 MKII, so will be trying out that and the Perreaux come Thursday.
Cheers
Mac
I would be surprised if something doesn't come out of all this effort.....the EC5 is a worthy contender.
Fantastic !
I look forward to hearing how they compare and your thoughts and findings about the ECI5 mk2
I was thinking perhaps asking them to send the EMC1UP as well, any idea how it would compare to my Naim CDX2?
Cheers
Mac
I was thinking perhaps asking them to send the EMC1UP as well, any idea how it would compare to my Naim CDX2?
Cheers
Mac
Electro will answer for himself.... but as far as I'm concerned, it's much more to my taste, and like the amp, gives a lovely musical presentation (dynamic while remaining organic). Well worth trying along with the amp.
If memory serves, it and the amp sound noticeably better using balanced connections.....but Electro can probably confirm this.
If I had to pick one piece of equipment that I can honestly say is the best source of any type that I have ever heard including vinyl and other hi res digital formats it would be the EMC1UP, what it is able to do with a simple ordinary Cd is amazing .
I have owned it since the UP model was available in the UK in 2003 and the current EMC1UP sold now remains unchanged since it's introduction which says a lot !
This Cd player just plays music in a way that no other source of any type that I have heard can do so I would heartily recommend you try it at the same time as the Eci5 and definitely use the balanced connections it is how it was designed to be used , it sounds considerably better using the balanced interconnect option IMO .
Another thing worth noting is that it needs to be warmed up for about half an hour before serious listening mainly due to the discreet class A analogue output stage I think .
I do have two small criticisms one being a slightly fiddly set up after the transit screws are released it also has to be level for best results , the other is the awful cheap looking standard remote control , it is functional but not what you would expect at this price !
Here is a review .
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue47/emc1.htm
and another from the same guy as an update , it is a bit long winded but worth the effort 
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue51/Electrocompaniet.htm
If I had to pick one piece of equipment that I can honestly say is the best source of any type that I have ever heard including vinyl and other hi res digital formats it would be the EMC1UP, what it is able to do with a simple ordinary Cd is amazing .
I have owned it since the UP model was available in the UK in 2003 and the current EMC1UP sold now remains unchanged since it's introduction which says a lot !
This Cd player just plays music in a way that no other source of any type that I have heard can do so I would heartily recommend you try it at the same time as the Eci5 and definitely use the balanced connections it is how it was designed to be used , it sounds considerably better using the balanced interconnect option IMO .
Another thing worth noting is that it needs to be warmed up for about half an hour before serious listening mainly due to the discreet class A analogue output stage I think .
I do have two small criticisms one being a slightly fiddly set up after the transit screws are released it also has to be level for best results , the other is the awful cheap looking standard remote control , it is functional but not what you would expect at this price !
Here is a review .
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue47/emc1.htm
and another from the same guy as an update , it is a bit long winded but worth the effort
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue51/Electrocompaniet.htm
Thanks for the insight Electro, a stunning review! Good news they have agreed to loan me the CDP too.
Cheers
Mac
Excellent news , I thought Audio Destination would provide their usual fantastic service
Just to give you a bit more insight into how it compares here is a review of the EMCIUP from HiFi World where it is compared with the CDX2 and they are using the Sugden IA4 for amplification as well !
There is also a good set of test measurements done by Noel Keywood at the end of the review that shows that it is flat from 2HZ to 21.3 HZ .
http://www.electrocompaniet.no/files/reviews/2009_june_HiFi_World_EMC_1-...
Excellent news , I thought Audio Destination would provide their usual fantastic service
Just to give you a bit more insight into how it compares here is a review of the EMCIUP from HiFi World where it is compared with the CDX2 and they are using the Sugden IA4 for amplification as well !
There is also a good set of test measurements done by Noel Keywood at the end of the review that shows that it is flat from 2HZ to 21.3 HZ .
http://www.electrocompaniet.no/files/reviews/2009_june_HiFi_World_EMC_1-...
Thanks for the link Electro.
Funnily, I remember reading that review and from what the reviewer was saying, I felt it may not be much better than the CDX2, so never persued it.
Well on Thursday, I'll be able to hear for myself.
Cheers
Mac
Hi,
As well as the Electrocompaniet EMC1UP coming for a home demo, Sugden have agreed to send me their new Masterclass PDT4-F CDP for me to try... it's going to be a busy weekend with them and the two amps to play with.
Just pray I can make a decision after it all.
Cheers
Mac
If you fancy the ECI5 mk2 then there is nearly new one for sale at a very good price ,
http://www.audiodestination.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath...
Here is the technical spec and a few reviews .
http://www.electrocompaniet.no/products/classic/integrated/eci5MKII.html
It has a lot of similar qualities to the IA4 but goes deeper and is far more powerful sounding in the bass , it copes far better when the music gets complex or has a lot of powerful transients and is an extremely transparent amp that never seems to put a foot wrong no matter what type of music you like .
If you get a chance try to get a home demo , it is worth a phone call to Audio Destination because I have found them very helpful in the past and I am sure they will do their best to help you .
Thanks for that Electro. I'll give them a ring tomorrow.
Cheers
Mac
Accuphase E350 amp, Electrocompaniet EMC1UP CDP, Siltech 25th Classic anniversary 330I XLR Harbeth Super HL5 on Sound Anchor Quod ELS63 stands, Chord Odessey2 speaker cable. Grado SR60 headphones.