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Colsoulpower wrote:

Thanks for the replies, really appreciate it a lot.

@hifilover: can I ask you why you stuck with the bx5's and sold the rx2? And would you agree that the rx2's are more fatiguing than the dynaudio's?

 

And also, as i mentioned earlier, my library only contains 320 kbps, I read some raving reviews about speakers and than ended with: they can be too revealing and if your quality of the source isn't that good, they will enlarge this (eg eb acoustics eb2). So maybe that leaves out a few? or can 320 be fixed with a decent dac to sound as good as a decent cd player or flac-files?

And is it maybe best for the long term to choose a very neutral amp like rotel or better marantz, which read from reviews do tend to sound warmer. Or yamaha as-500? very exciting review on whathifi, but on the fora, not that many fans...

 

Re the above bolded comment:

 

I sold my M/A RX2's as I had sold off my NAD pre/power combo and NAD integrated hifi set-up as I was looking to reduce to an all in one system (i.e. the Marantz CR603). The speakers were also sold as the wife doesnt like speaker stands.

 

In NO way did I EVER find the M/A RX2's fatiguing; they're superb speakers as long as theyre matched with the correct amp and source (i.e. as what I said above in my 1st comment - Arcam, Rotel, NAD etc...)

 

I demo'd the B&W CM5's with the Marantz CR603 as I had them with my NAD pre/power set-up) as well as the Dynaudio 2/6's and 2/7's as well as the B&W 685's and M?A RX1's and the RX2's, for me, stood heads above the rest.

 

I listen to a lot of music such as Fischerspooner, Layo & Bushwacka, Hed Kandi, Mount Kimbie, Zero 7, Unkle etc... The RX2's control over the soundstage along with their superb, deep, and very taut bass as well as crisp/clear treble (but with no harshness) was superb

 

The RX2's do need room to breathe though; they're rear firing so they need at least a foot of space around them and a biggish room as well; they were very capable of getting our house shaking indeed but also a superb speaker to sit back and enjoy with the likes of the Late Night Tales music series or some Dean Martin / Nat King Cole etc...

 

With regards to your music and amp selection; have you ever considered the all-in-one system such as the Marantz CR603 or Arcam Solo Mini etc...?

 

If you are after an amp and DAC then the likes of a NAD C356BEE, Rotel RA04SE, or the Yamaha AS500 amp will work superbly as long as you choose the right speaker and cables etc... As for a DAC; you're spoilt so the worlds your oyster currently.

 

You REALLY need to demo as much as possible though so you are able to understand what works better with each component etc...

 

Currently, my money would be on a decent 2nd hand amp (more bang for your buck) such as an Arcam FMJ A32, Musical Fidelty XA200, NAD C352 (PD version) or C355BEE, Arcam Alpha 10 etc...

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RE: Paradigm, Dynaudio, Monitor Audio or Epos

How about keeping it active with Dynaudio BMA 6 MK2 or AVI 9.1. Both come in on budget, no worries with system matching and less space needed. 

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With the OP's taste in music the AVI's IMO just wont cut the mustard; I demo'd them a few times and found them seriously lacking in solid, punch & tight bass many a time

 

As for the active Dyn's, I've never heard them so cant comment

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I own the X-12's and I love them, but I would say even though Dynaudios are renown for their bass I sometimes wonder what the 2/7's would sound like having the bigger driver, but am unable to compare. I ordered a Leema Pulse from UK (i'm in Australia) and it's ready for pick-up tomorrow, I can't wait to hook it up and see what it sounds like! I listen to all varieties of music and the Dynaudio's are still to disappoint, if I ever upgrade it will only be to a higher model such as a Focus.

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Colsoulpower wrote:

@oldric_naubhoff: I am new to all this, but you're saying that matrix dac + dynaudio + pre-amplifier (not integrated?) will give best results?

yes. active studio monitors at this price level are a bargain compared to passive system (integrated amp + passive speakers). it's all down to passive crossover network which is something you don't want to have but need to have in order for speakers to work properly. cheap speakers use cheap components. cheap components have worse tolerances so distort more. and there's the issue of crossover topology. IMO, and not only my opinion, the best slope is shallow 6db per octave, such as Dynaudio is using. active studio speakers don't use a passive crossover but an active version which is way better solution (if you want to you can read more about it on the net).

clarification. this matrix dac IS an integrated dac and pre amp, so you just need to plug USB cable from your computer into it and run a pair of XLR interconnects into active speakers. volume control does the DAC. a very minimalistic set up. I only recommend this DAC because it has XLR outs, it's quite inexpensive and as far opinions on the net are correct is also quite nice sounding device. looks good too.

I personally have a passive set up. but I've got Dyns Focus 110 and Pathos Classic One integrated. it sounds great but a little over your budget.

as for Excite X12 vs DM 2/7. Excite X 12 are great little speakers. I made my decision to buy Focuses on auditioning X12. but I'm afraid they might be a little bass light for you. X 16 would be much better choice but are over the budget. hence DM 2/7 option.

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@hifilover: thanks man! So if I would go with the rx2 which would you choose: rotel ra04se, ra 06se, ra 1520 or nad c356BEE? And those are powerfull enough?

@oldric_naubhoff: You got a suggestion for a good but affordable amp with that dm2/7? Out of experience?  Very interesting stuff about active speakers and all, but think i'm gonna stick with passive, think it's easier to upgrade in the future to better components in a passive set-up... and is it right that the matrix is designed as a headphone amp? doesn't sound too exciting actually...

 

Thanks a lot guys, but still looking for that paradigm fan, thought it was a real audiophile brand...

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Colsoulpower wrote:

@hifilover: thanks man! So if I would go with the rx2 which would you choose: rotel ra04se, ra 06se, ra 1520 or nad c356BEE? And those are powerfull enough?

@oldric_naubhoff: You got a suggestion for a good but affordable amp with that dm2/7? Out of experience?  Very interesting stuff about active speakers and all, but think i'm gonna stick with passive, think it's easier to upgrade in the future to better components in a passive set-up... and is it right that the matrix is designed as a headphone amp? doesn't sound too exciting actually...

 

Thanks a lot guys, but still looking for that paradigm fan, thought it was a real audiophile brand...

 

For me, the NAD C356BEE and Rotel RA1520 amps would be superb closely followed by the Leema Pulse (all 3 of these are more than powerful enough to drive the M/A and Dynaudio speakers). A 2nd hand Arcam FMJ A32 would be a superb buy if one can be found (and if you'll consider 2nd hand). These amps would drive the M/A and Dynaudio speakers very well indeed

 

Re Paradigm speakers; I've only ever seen them in the shops, never heard them

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I owned the Excite X12s for a

I owned the Excite X12s for a short while and also loved them. They are a terrific speaker. I swapped them for X16s which I like even more, but the X12 is dynamite for it's size.

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RE: Paradigm, Dynaudio, Monitor Audio or Epos

hifilover1979 wrote:

Colsoulpower wrote:

Thanks for the replies, really appreciate it a lot.

@hifilover: can I ask you why you stuck with the bx5's and sold the rx2? And would you agree that the rx2's are more fatiguing than the dynaudio's?

 

And also, as i mentioned earlier, my library only contains 320 kbps, I read some raving reviews about speakers and than ended with: they can be too revealing and if your quality of the source isn't that good, they will enlarge this (eg eb acoustics eb2). So maybe that leaves out a few? or can 320 be fixed with a decent dac to sound as good as a decent cd player or flac-files?

And is it maybe best for the long term to choose a very neutral amp like rotel or better marantz, which read from reviews do tend to sound warmer. Or yamaha as-500? very exciting review on whathifi, but on the fora, not that many fans...

 

Re the above bolded comment:

 

I sold my M/A RX2's as I had sold off my NAD pre/power combo and NAD integrated hifi set-up as I was looking to reduce to an all in one system (i.e. the Marantz CR603). The speakers were also sold as the wife doesnt like speaker stands.

 

In NO way did I EVER find the M/A RX2's fatiguing; they're superb speakers as long as theyre matched with the correct amp and source (i.e. as what I said above in my 1st comment - Arcam, Rotel, NAD etc...)

 

I demo'd the B&W CM5's with the Marantz CR603 as I had them with my NAD pre/power set-up) as well as the Dynaudio 2/6's and 2/7's as well as the B&W 685's and M?A RX1's and the RX2's, for me, stood heads above the rest.

 

I listen to a lot of music such as Fischerspooner, Layo & Bushwacka, Hed Kandi, Mount Kimbie, Zero 7, Unkle etc... The RX2's control over the soundstage along with their superb, deep, and very taut bass as well as crisp/clear treble (but with no harshness) was superb

 

The RX2's do need room to breathe though; they're rear firing so they need at least a foot of space around them and a biggish room as well; they were very capable of getting our house shaking indeed but also a superb speaker to sit back and enjoy with the likes of the Late Night Tales music series or some Dean Martin / Nat King Cole etc...

 

With regards to your music and amp selection; have you ever considered the all-in-one system such as the Marantz CR603 or Arcam Solo Mini etc...?

 

If you are after an amp and DAC then the likes of a NAD C356BEE, Rotel RA04SE, or the Yamaha AS500 amp will work superbly as long as you choose the right speaker and cables etc... As for a DAC; you're spoilt so the worlds your oyster currently.

 

You REALLY need to demo as much as possible though so you are able to understand what works better with each component etc...

 

Currently, my money would be on a decent 2nd hand amp (more bang for your buck) such as an Arcam FMJ A32, Musical Fidelty XA200, NAD C352 (PD version) or C355BEE, Arcam Alpha 10 etc...

Sorry for bumping up an old thread. I'm actually in a situation that i couldn't make a decision.

 

@hifiover1979,

Would you mind if i ask what do you think about combining a Musical Fidelity M1DAC + MF M3i with the Monitor Audio RX2? Smile Thank you.

 

@colsoulpower,

Hope you wouldn't mind if i ask what's your current build with your final decision? Actually i was searching for comparing the RX2 with the Paradigm as well but i still couldn't find a single comments at the end of this topic Tongue i've seen some positive review on the Paradigm speakers but not sure why it's not even worth mention in this topic lol. 

I've also seen some reviews said that the rotel and yamaha will be too bright. Any thoughts ? Smile

I listen most of the time classical, jazz, bossa nova, opera. :D 

 

Thank you