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OooooOOOOooooh.... Kef LS50s

Briefly heard a pair this afternoon alongside GX100s. Interesting.

The amp was Arcam A19 connected to Audiolab 8200 (wonder where they got that idea? :shifty: ).

Remember I'm not familiar with the amp, CD or speakers, although did hear the MAs connected to a Cyrus kit.

In terms of detail resolution and dynamics the LS50s lived up to the hype 100%. (Quite like the quirky looks and the Dale Winton coloured drivers). Have to say the whole soundstage for such a small speaker was pretty impressive, creating a fine 3D sonic picture.

Switch to the GX100s and the theme continued in a similar vain; the detail levels pretty much on par. However, spin some "dirty, filthy rock" and the Kefs seemed slightly reticent, by compasion. The MAs just seemed more able to pound out the beats better IMO. I know the cabinets are bigger on the MAs but the LS50s sounded a little too analytical for my tastes.

If it were my money between the two I'd probably plump for the GX100s.

This was one of my unplanned (surprise) dems so couldn't spend too much time analysing. 

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Glad you got to hear

Glad you got to hear them.....though I would point a finger at the Audiolab for making them sound a little analytical.

I know it's subjective, but they are yet to sound analytical whenever I've heard them, as I avoid this at all costs.

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The MAs sounded 'right' to my ears. Now whether that's because of my old chestnut about Arcam and MAs being a cracking combo or if it was something more fundamental, couldn't really say without the Leema being there.

In some respects the LS50s were awesome, but weren't the ideal all-rounder I was hoping to hear. This is just my opinion.

To my ears PMC DB1is are a more balanced all-rounder than the Kefs.

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I've heard the LS50s few

I've heard the LS50s few times including Bristol. They sounded very good & look pretty but saying they look like Dale W is pretty insulting to KEF - I mean come on.. ROFL
At least they don't have horrid silver coloured drivers but am not familiar with how the GX100s sound.
However, the speakers I've heard with ribbon tweeters like Aurum's have been very engaging.
Shudder - can't get this vision of Dale W's face out of my mind now (not that I've got much against the guy, as it happens)

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RE: I've heard the LS50s few

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I've heard the LS50s few times including Bristol. They sounded very good & look pretty but saying they look like Dale W is pretty insulting to KEF - I mean come on.. ROFL At least they don't have horrid silver coloured drivers but am not familiar with how the GX100s sound. However, the speakers I've heard with ribbon tweeters like Aurum's have been very engaging. Shudder - can't get this vision of Dale W's face out of my mind now (not that I've got much against the guy, as it happens)

Hehe...

Have to admit those ribbon tweeters on the MAs are fugly. Looks like they've stuck a spirit level in the front. :grin:

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What happened to your cdp

What happened to your cdp

Michell / Icon Audio / Kudos

 

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RE: Glad you got to hear

:boohoo:

 

To my ears PMC DB1is are a more balanced all-rounder than the Kefs.

[/quote] Me too !Heard ls50 and Db1i on the end of audiolab ,naim and Cyrus gear,much preferred Db1's .Warmer ,smoother better tonal balance.

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RE: OooooOOOOooooh.... Kef LS50s

I also heard the LS50 vs. GX100 and very much preferred the latter. Main issue with the KEFs was a boomy bass, but as David tought me, that was most likely due to the amplifier (a CA integrated in my case; can't remember the type), rather than the speakers themselves. So if anything, the LS50s need well matched amplification.

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plastic penguin wrote:If it

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If it were my money between the two I'd probably plump for the GX100s.

The GX100s must have been stunning, if they were worth £450 more. :rockout:

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RE: What happened to your cdp

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What happened to your cdp

Probably having a picnic on Salisbury Plain. Smile

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plastic penguin wrote:
If it were my money between the two I'd probably plump for the GX100s.
The GX100s must have been stunning, if they were worth £450 more. :rockout:

This is why, perhaps, it was a little unfair. But as these were the only two he had in his dem room, so just gave the appraisal on available (rigged up) stock.

BTW, saw, not heard, the B&W CM10. gawd they're big.

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Briefly heard a pair this afternoon alongside GX100s. Interesting.

The amp was Arcam A19 connected to Audiolab 8200 (wonder where they got that idea? :shifty: ).

Remember I'm not familiar with the amp, CD or speakers, although did hear the MAs connected to a Cyrus kit.

In terms of detail resolution and dynamics the LS50s lived up to the hype 100%. (Quite like the quirky looks and the Dale Winton coloured drivers). Have to say the whole soundstage for such a small speaker was pretty impressive, creating a fine 3D sonic picture.

Switch to the GX100s and the theme continued in a similar vain; the detail levels pretty much on par. However, spin some "dirty, filthy rock" and the Kefs seemed slightly reticent, by compasion. The MAs just seemed more able to pound out the beats better IMO. I know the cabinets are bigger on the MAs but the LS50s sounded a little too analytical for my tastes.

If it were my money between the two I'd probably plump for the GX100s.

This was one of my unplanned (surprise) dems so couldn't spend too much time analysing. 

The more time you spend with KEF's the more you appreciate their quality......... Dirol

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RE: OooooOOOOooooh.... Kef LS50s

I have to agree as well.

LS50 vs GX100 in my system (MDAC, KI-Pearl Lite), I also prefer the sound of the GX100.

 

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RE: OooooOOOOooooh.... Kef LS50s

Easy chaps. This wasn't really meant to be "LS50s are c**p" thread. Based on the set-up I heard the LS50s, when playing driving rock, came up just a little short when compared to the GX100s. Just thought I'd share what I heard yesterday.

How would they sound with the Leema? No idea.

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RE: OooooOOOOooooh.... Kef LS50s

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RE: OooooOOOOooooh.... Kef LS50s

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Easy chaps. This wasn't really meant to be "LS50s are c**p" thread. Based on the set-up I heard the LS50s, when playing driving rock, came up just a little short when compared to the GX100s. Just thought I'd share what I heard yesterday.

How would they sound with the Leema? No idea.

I hope my post didn't come across as anything other than surprise. You were the only one there and I certainly wouldn't question what you heard....only try and explain it (ie. part system, part room and part taste).

I would expect the RX100s to have stronger bass and be harder hitting when it comes to rock, than the LS50s, which tend to be detailed but more polite. .....which is why I like them. 

I have found that the LS50s seem to make everything enjoyable, maybe at the expense of getting "down and dirty" enough (for some tastes), with certain genres of music.

A lot of the time it's what you're used to, so getting comfortable with a different presentation can take time.....and even then it may not happen.

 

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