They were reluctant to demo the SP2/3R2 and also don't open on Wednesday's which is my day off.
I see, any reason why they were relunctant to demo the SP2/3R2?
They said that the Quad 303 wouldn't do the SP2/3R2 justice. They suggested the SP3/1R2 or A5 instead.
Also they did not have the SP2 in at the time. They cannot do Wednesday's which is the only time I can go.
CA 751BD, Denon AVR-3801, Quad 21L2, Quad L2 Centre, Mission 78DS
Samsung LE32R87BD 32"
A few Emails later and I can now get home demo’s of the Spendor, Harbeth and Tannoy speakers.
It's going to be a few months as I'm moving next year (hopefully).
No point getting home demo's until I've moved!
Well they could be right about the Quad, think Dave said something similar. HAve you been trying these speakers with different amps or is all with your Quad?
I've been trying them all with my amps.
I did try the Harbeth 30.1 with a £1000 Croft amp which made a small difference.
The chap at the demo I did yesterday seemed to like my amps though. They seemed to do a good job with all the speakers.
Why not try the speakers with some more powerful amps, not sure what they stock but something around £1,500 maybe and see if theres a difference, Im not that familar with amps around that price range but Rega, Creek, Exposure, Leema and Primare I think all do amps around that price or a bit less.
With a budget of £3000 what's the best thing to do?
I could get a more powerful/newer amp for £1500 but that only leaved £1500 for speakers.
Unless a £1500 amp works wonders with my Quad 21L2 speakers then that saves me £1500.
I'm not after silly volume levels (although I occasionally crank it up a bit) so I don't need lots of power, although I know a more powerful or newer amp will likely control the speakers better.
Total cost of ownership will likely be lower for my current amps as servicing is relatively cheap and will likely not need doing again for many years (had both serviced recently).
I have found from my demo's that speakers in the higher ranges sound overall better than the lower ranges (Spendor Classic vs A series, Tannoy Definition vs Precision). So a standmount in a higher range sounds better than a floor stander in the range below but may be priced the same.
It's difficult to know what way to go.
Well I know but as you as auditioning I would try to iron this out. The other option is to get the speakers now and then upgrade the amp later.
I think its not so much about volume but control, maybe some of your bass issues are due to the amp? You maybe better off getting speakers for £2,000 and then buying a used amp for upto £1,000?
You could be right.
The Quad 303 is supposed to be a bit iffy with its bass but only at higher volumes.
Maybe its struggling with such good quality speakers or the speakers are showing its shortcomings.
I do prefer the overall presentation from the higher end speaker though even with the bass issues.
As it's a lot of money I think I should take your (and others who have posted) advise and demo some £1500-£2000 speakers with a more capable amp.
The Spendor SP3/1R2 is around £1800 leaving £1200 for either a better power amp (Quad 909 or similar) or integrated amp.
I know the feeling.
How about a home demo of one or two amps? e.g. the Elicit-R or a Leema. That might at least indicate how it would make sense for you to divide up your budget.
What classical music are you listening to?
Well good luck in your search. Re home demo I thought you were moving house soon?
Yes, moving next year hopefully. I'll do home demo's once I've moved.
Just in the process of narrowing down what to home demo at the moment.
I'm using some of the money I get from the house sale to fund the new speakers.
I could try the speakers with different amps at dealers. The one nearest me has some Quad 23L speakers that I could use with my amps and a good amp that they have to get an idea of what a better amp can do for my speakers. I don't want to take my speakers to a dealer as they are quite bulky and I don't want them to get damaged in transit.
Might be worth your while taking a look through the preowned amps at audio emotion and they will allow home demos, plus do decent part exchange deals too.
Accuphase E350 amp, Electrocompaniet EMC1UP CDP, Siltech 25th Classic anniversary 330I XLR Harbeth Super HL5 on Sound Anchor Quod ELS63 stands, Chord Odessey2 speaker cable. Grado SR60 headphones.
Mac I enjoy your album reviews, please note THE GHOST OF TOM JOAD is on spotify now and also on Deezer.
I think you are a prime candidate for an Electro ECI-3 amp....if that is a consideration.
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