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Thanks for all your help guys! On the back of each speaker the red and black terminals have a piece of metal (?) connecting them... is that right? I tried swapping the + and - cables today and it sounded pretty much the same, no noticable difference.
The two red terminals and the two black terminals are linked, correct? Speaker wire to one red and one black, correct?
Put some music on an modest levels, tone controlls flat and listen to each drive unit in turn, just to make sure everything is working.
OK then, with the tone controls flat play some music a normal listening levels, check that it sounds the same left and right, if it does, try and describe the sound and what it is about it that you do not like. Also what sort of setting is the volume control, also how does this relate to the levels you would like to achieve.
Difficult to put into words bet do the best you can.
Just seen your photos, looks correct to me. Proceed to checking the drive units as above.
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,
And we remember why we came.
OK, those look OK. Have you tried CDs as well as vinyl, and do they sound the same? Is the turntable plugged into the 'phono' input?
OK, I've found a picture of the back of some Heylettes. Looking at the image it looks as though the top two terminals on each speaker are marked in red and the bottom two are marked black.
If I am correct about the above on each speakers:
The top two terminals (both red) should be connected to each other by some sort of link, be it cable or metal links.
The bottom two terminals (both black) should be connected to each other by some sort of link, be it cable or metal links.
For the left speaker plug one end of the speaker cable in at the amp end. If your cables have plugs on the end one will be red and the other black. Make sure the red on is plugged into the Left red (+) terminal on the amp, and the black one is plugged into the Left black (-) terminal on the amp. (You should be using the set of terminals marked 'A' on the amp which are the bottom four). At the speaker end (provided you have plugs on this end as well) plug the red plug into either of the red terminals on the speaker, and the black plug into the black terminal below it.
Repeat the same for the right speaker.
If you don't have plugs on the speaker cables, depending on the cable type one half of each side will be marked with a black or red line or writing and the other half will not have these markings. Use the marked side as the 'red' (positive) and the unmarked side as the 'black' (negative) and follow the same basic theory as outlined above.
Hope this is helpful.
NEVER allow positive and negative (red and black) cables to touch each other when the amp is powered up. To avoid this make sure the amp is switched off when making connections and make doubly sure that you have followed the connection instructions above. For example, DO NOT put both connections into terminals of the same colour at the speaker end. When red and black touch each other you create a short circuit and risk damaging the output stage of your amplifier.
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Turntable is plugged into phono, and is quieter than CD, but that's to be expected. Just tried a cd with the levels flat and it sounded tinny. I pressed in the loudness button and it made a difference, but still didn't sound full enough to my ears. Pushed the bass right up and it came alive a bit, but I feel like it should sound great without doing those things... The bass part of the speaker is working, but didn't seem that powerful. Is it possible that the speakers just aren't to my tastes? How much difference do they make? Could someone recommend some speakers that could make the difference to me? Volume level was at about a quarter by the way...
OK, cross posted.
Pictures look OK to me, as long as the red terminal on the amp is connected to the red terminal on the speaker and the black termainl on the amp is connected to the black terminal on the speaker (ie. make sure the two sides of each cable are running to their equivalent terminals on the speakers).
Speakers make more difference than anything else IMO. I've tried the Denon with a few. The Quads sound superb - great imaging and a very natural sound overall. If you want something a bit peppier, the B&W 685s work very well with it (though I found them a bit tiring after a while).
When Ed Selley reviewed the CD and amp in Hi-Fi Choice he used Mordaunt-Short Mezzo 2s. Having had those speakers in the past, I reckon they'd work very well with the Denon.
Would also be well worth exploring the Wharfedale Diamond 121s for something more affordable, but just make sure you get a pair with decent quality finish.
From memory, and it is a very long time ago, the Heylettes are a refined, neutral loudspeaker that can sound rather polite and lacking in punch and presence, particularly with modest amplification.
You are driving them with a budget amplifier with limited power, you are not going to get a big sound with plenty of bass which appears to be what you are after.
Try and get hold of a pair of loudspeakers that offer a lot of 'bang for the buck', Wharfedale diamonds of some sort are the obvious choice, see what they do for you.
In 1999 Hi-Fi World said of the Heylettes - "Better suited to Classical than Rock or Heavy Metal. Smooth and refined sound will appeal to many."
One check for in-phase is to play some mono music, try Stones Paint it Black. does it sound right, if out of phase it won't. You could try switching the wires around either on the amp or one of the speakers, make sure you switch the amp off first.
As review says more suited to classical I don't think you will get that much bass from them. Speakers that should make a difference you could try Kef R100s but they are £600 new or £500 if you shop around or Epos Epics are a bit cheaper, how much can you spend?
Can't hurt to try the "A" terminals on the amp & make sure the speaker selector is set to A only & not A+B.
Do you have headphones try?
Have you had the grilles off the speakers to check the condition of the drivers? If not check how the speaker cone is attached to the frame & if it all looks good. Not sure if late 90s drivers would still have been prone to the foam rot that killed many 80s speakers?
Hi Tom ,
If the speakers are in phase , and it seems you must have checked a dozen times how are they positioned in the room , how far apart and how far away from you , and most important how far off the back wall ? .
Looks to Me they are quite small rear ported , try them at maybe a foot off the back wall moving out to maybe 16 inches at a guess with everything set flat on the amp and see if that helps , also are they blu tacked to the stands , are the stands stable , have you / can you fill the stands with dry sand . Killing any movement in the stands or speaker cabinet can really help . After that try toeing them in and straight forward .
Hope this helps
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I decided to finally upgrade from my horrible cd player and bought a DENO-PMA720 amp and DENO-DCD720 and also a PROJ-ESSENTIAL turntable. Having got everything setup, I'm not happy with the sound at all. I'm new to this and wasn't sure what to expect sound quality wise, but there's no depth to the sound. I have the bass setting to almost maximum all the time, and even then it's not enough really. I'm using some old speakers of my dad's they are Heybrook Heylette speakers. I wondered if perhaps the speakers were the problem. I have some decent Atacama speaker stands and I bought some decent enough speaker cable from a local shop. Does anybody have any idea what the problem might be? Thanks for your help in advance. Tom
You could try positioning the speakers differently, this can make a big difference.
Failing that, the problem is either the equipment or your expectations. See if you can loan another amp and a pair of speakers to see what difference either of them make to gain some sort of reference.
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This is good advice. No point rushing into another purchase without trying first.
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