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RE: New Hi Fi

You're doing the right thing. Only you can decide. 

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Expect on yr return feom demo .... no ......Demand! a full & ubiassed write up.
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Not to mention the free lunch. Difficult to beat the hard sell - £20 says he walks away with glazed eyes, and the speakers. Indoctrination into a cult is hard to beat.

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Damn. I didn't get lunch or even a cuppa. 

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Damn. I didn't get lunch or even a cuppa. 

Should've played hard to get then. Wink

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Different level of victim, relax.

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If you are looking at spending that sort of money I would save a little bit longer at the beginning.  

For less than £1500, you could get brand new AVI ADM 9RS or RSS stand-mount active speakers.  Instantly, with the aid of a phono amp,  you will get a very serious system consisting of speakers, power and pre-amp, remote control and necessary cabling.  If needs be you can then upgrade your vinyl source.

You won't get better value for money and you won't stay on the constant tweaking and 'upgrade' train. You owe t to your ears and wallet to investigate the AVI and 'active' route.

You most definitely can get better value for money than new AVI ADM 9RS or RSS's.

2nd hand.

Well, if we're going to use second hand prices, lets even the playing field with a £700 limit, the average going rate for a second hand pair of ADM9s. Wink

Does this mean that you agree with me? That you can get better value for money than new AVI ADM 9 RS or RSS's? Even if it's only a 2nd hand AVI ADM 9's?

 

You have changed the goalposts by setting a £700 limit and not a £1500 limit.

 

Nevertheless AVI ADM 9RS or RSS's at close to £1500 represent such mediocre value for money that there are quite a few systems for £700 that I'd be happy to put up against the AVI's. Here's a few examples: Asus Xonar Essence soundcard with Urei 6290 amp into scruffy EV Sentry III speakers, Phillips cd 620 into A&R A60 into Quad ESL 57's or 63's, new audiosmile modded Behringer DAC into Sansui AU 9500 into Goodmans Magisters, Beresford DAC into Sony TA F770ES into Royd Misntrels, Marantz CD 6000SE into Yaqin 12 watt amp into Klipsch Cornwalls, new asus xonar essence one dac into Pioneer SA 706 into Heybrook HB3 speakers...

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Try and get your demo in the next 3 days.

If you like them then have a look here before ordering new ones...

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... only 5 months old. Mint condition, original packaging, barely used.

You could save quite a bit and still sell them on - for most of what you paid - if you change your mind at a later date.

I'd suggest bidding £850 maximum (if you liked what you heard at the demo) and see what happens. Anything significantly higher and you may as well buy brand new to get the latest version and full warranty.

[EDIT] Sorry, just noticed someone else linked to the same ebay item.  (Although I think £700 might be a bit optimistic in this case given their newness and condition.) 

 

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lindsayt wrote:

Overdose wrote:

lindsayt wrote:

relocated wrote:

If you are looking at spending that sort of money I would save a little bit longer at the beginning.  

For less than £1500, you could get brand new AVI ADM 9RS or RSS stand-mount active speakers.  Instantly, with the aid of a phono amp,  you will get a very serious system consisting of speakers, power and pre-amp, remote control and necessary cabling.  If needs be you can then upgrade your vinyl source.

You won't get better value for money and you won't stay on the constant tweaking and 'upgrade' train. You owe t to your ears and wallet to investigate the AVI and 'active' route.

You most definitely can get better value for money than new AVI ADM 9RS or RSS's.

2nd hand.

Well, if we're going to use second hand prices, lets even the playing field with a £700 limit, the average going rate for a second hand pair of ADM9s. Wink

Does this mean that you agree with me? That you can get better value for money than new AVI ADM 9 RS or RSS's? Even if it's only a 2nd hand AVI ADM 9's?

 

You have changed the goalposts by setting a £700 limit and not a £1500 limit.

 

Nevertheless AVI ADM 9RS or RSS's at close to £1500 represent such mediocre value for money that there are quite a few systems for £700 that I'd be happy to put up against the AVI's. Here's a few examples: Asus Xonar Essence soundcard with Urei 6290 amp into scruffy EV Sentry III speakers, Phillips cd 620 into A&R A60 into Quad ESL 57's or 63's, new audiosmile modded Behringer DAC into Sansui AU 9500 into Goodmans Magisters, Beresford DAC into Sony TA F770ES into Royd Misntrels, Marantz CD 6000SE into Yaqin 12 watt amp into Klipsch Cornwalls, new asus xonar essence one dac into Pioneer SA 706 into Heybrook HB3 speakers...

Don't be silly.

You suggested used equipment to be a better value for money buy than the new ADM9s. That's the goalpost right there £1400 on new ADM9RSS's.

Regardless of equipment, second hand  will always be better value for money, as the first customer has taken the hit on devaluation.

I think it safe to say that the statement regarding value for money implies new prices, so only like for like in this area is valid, therefore meaning £1400 or so for new equipment. If you want to be pendantic (and frankly, when don't you?) and want to include used equipment, then it is only fair to include used ADM9s in your bizarre excercise. £700 being an arbitrary figure, but seemingly representative of used prices for 9Ts.

I guess that sort of money should indeed buy something more than acceptable, but I would imagine that the OP would not like his front room looking like some sort of bric-a-brac shop in a village that time forgot. Blum 3

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chebby wrote:

I'd suggest bidding £850 maximum (if you liked what you heard at the demo) and see what happens. Anything significantly higher and you may as well buy brand new to get the latest version and full warranty.

[EDIT] Sorry, just noticed someone else linked to the same ebay item.  (Although I think £700 might be a bit optimistic in this case given their newness and condition.) 

Those might be 9Ts and pre RS. Best to ask the seller before bidding though.

I paid quite a lot less than new RSs for my 9Ts brand new and that wasn't far off what you suggest the OP should consider for these. I'd say £700 and wait until a pair show up again, or ask the guys on the AVI forum if any are coming up for sale. It they are RS models then fair play, £850 might be nearer the mark and a very good deal.

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lindsayt wrote:
 Goodmans Magisters.... Royd Misntrels... Klipsch Cornwalls...

ROFL :rofl: ROFL

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altruistic.lemon wrote:

Not to mention the free lunch. Difficult to beat the hard sell - £20 says he walks away with glazed eyes, and the speakers. Indoctrination into a cult is hard to beat.

It's a deal: you owe me £20 if I don't buy the AVIs.

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Active speakers are something i hadn't considered, although i won't get a chance to audition them for a while as the there are no stockists near here.  And are they really that good?

Going down the second hand route is an option, but anything relatively new doesn't seem significantly cheaper or at least not that i have noticed.  Anyway i will watch those ADM's on ebay, i'm intigued to see how much they go for now.

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Active speakers are something i hadn't considered, although i won't get a chance to audition them for a while as the there are no stockists near here.  And are they really that good?

Going down the second hand route is an option, but anything relatively new doesn't seem significantly cheaper or at least not that i have noticed.  Anyway i will watch those ADM's on ebay, i'm intigued to see how much they go for now.

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anderoob wrote:

Active speakers are something i hadn't considered, although i won't get a chance to audition them for a while as the there are no stockists near here.  And are they really that good?

Going down the second hand route is an option, but anything relatively new doesn't seem significantly cheaper or at least not that i have noticed.  Anyway i will watch those ADM's on ebay, i'm intigued to see how much they go for now.

All things being equal, yes, active speakers are very good, but there are not many that have a more traditional hifi look at reasonable prices.

A much larger range is available in the pro audio market.

A few notable 'hifi' type of actives are, Dynaudio Focus 110A, Dynaudio Xeo 3 (wireless) and AVI ADM9. Those are standmounts, floorstanders are a bit more expensive.

I would definitely have a look at the 'for sale' section of the AVI forum, as usually there are some good deals on used ADM9s when they appear. Generally the speakers get looked after well.

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