What you have been doing is actually bi amping (bi wiring is running 2 separate cables to high and low terminals from the same amp). Both ways you have suggested are fine so use the method that gives you the best sound.
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Ben's right. You need to dem and fiddle with different set-ups to try and find that 'sweet spot'. I've had the Rega DAC on home dem for the last couple of days, and although very good, it does show up deficiencies in other components. Sorry if I sound like a stuck record but nothing beats a shop or home dem.
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To further complicate things I was offered today a b grade fmj cd 37 and a fmj a 38 for around half the new cost.
I know some of you have this set up and have read elsewhere that they work really well together.
The question is should I sell on my new a19 just a week old and go for a proven pair that really work.
The long term plan was to pair the a19 with the a19p due to come out later this year.
This would be bi amps each giving 50 watts per channel.
The a 38 giving 100 watts per channel .
would this give the same performance and sound rather than bi amping the a19 & a19p
The reason for my change of heart is one cost ( 50 % reduction) and secondly my insurance made me a very generous compensation settlement for the delto 290.
What should I do ?
I noticed you have the cd 37 and a 38 , how do you find them as a combination?
I like all types of music from dance to indie , even a bit of mild rock at times.
I'm keen on a warm expansive sound with a good helping of base and crisp high end.
please see my latest thread on a proposal made to me today
Any feedback much obliged
I like the sound of my system very much but it's impossible to say whether you will or not. I mainly listen to dance and hip hop but do listen to a little bit of all sorts. Generally I would describe it as a large well spaced soundstage, very open sounding midrange, deep powerful bass and for the most part smooth treble (on the odd track it can sound a little shrill but not sure if this is the recording or the set up because its only been 1 or 2 tracks). Obviously with different speakers the set up could sound very different so again it's impossible for me to say how it will sound.
Sorry I can't be more help. Is very subjective a bit like trying to tell you if you would like dark or white chocolate best based on what I like best.
i also have the A38 & CD37 combination - i used to own the A32 & CD36. The above is a good summary, key items are the well spaced soundstage, lovely midrange, deep bass, smoothish treble but i can tell you that the A38 & CD37 is a little more upfront than its predecessor which was more laid back in its presentation and needed more volume to get going. The newer models reveal a lot more detail and in my opinion should have put to bed the laid back comments that used to follow Arcam around. I have some pretty dynamic speakers which work well with the set up as the relatively smooth treble gives you room to use them. I dont find tracks over bearing at the treble end (i cant stand brightness or fatigue that i heard from some other well known manufactuters) but you can hear a badly mixed one for sure due to the clarity. Also worth noting it works well at low volumes probably due to its power. I particularly like the CD37 and its SACD capability available but i like matching separates myself.
i like to listen to different styles mostly from early 70's rock, through 80's electronic and acoustic and blues and female vocalists. i am not mad about heavy rock or rap so dont really care too much if these are not the Arcam speciality (often quoted). if i had to place where Arcam excels the most it would be acoustic, female vocals and electronic where it really captures the emotion of recordings.
finally as context i do like other brands, i used to have a NAD system years ago, and when i have undertaken demo's also like the Naim presentation of the newer models
The top end Arcams are great products and you can find them at great prices, i have bought mine for under £1k each and found it hard if not impossible to match them at that price range.
Hope this helps - try them out and see
thanks for your own personal thoughts on your a38's and cd37's. over the last few days I have bitten the bullet and bought ex demo a38 for £950 and an ex demo 37 for £750 both arrive tomorrow so I can't wait to get some music back into the house . I'm into hip hop and electronic and a bit of indie stuff so I'm sure the sound will be just what I'm after.
The new arcam a19 i bought last week to replace my old faithful delta 290 just could not match it although its a very versatile amp with the headphone amp included and wireless compatibility it's sound was just too bright with not enough warm deep bass which the 290 had . Luckily my local dealer is taking it back, but I have spent a lot of cash in his shop over the years so that's fair enough.
After a few months will have a look around for a p38 to pair up with the a38 and sell on my p290.
incidently have any of you heard the new kef range of speakers yet ?
Not heard the kef R series yet (if that's what your referring to) but they seem to be getting very good responses from those who have.
When you've had a good listen to your new set up I'd be interested to hear your opinion of the combination.
I currently run an a19 with kef r100s and as time goes on the more i'm loving my purchase, i feel like going back to 2 channel from 5.1 was one of the best things that i could have done. Music just has alot more sparkle and depth i actually find the arcam to be quite warm and as it is wearing in i find that it's sounding better and better.
I intially started running everything in with the arcams volume set at it's defaulted 20 i have since been turning up the volume to 25 and i have to admit that theres quite some power on this thing. I have a varied genre with music r'n'b drum and bass, raggae hip-hop and revival and the arcam seems to be handling the music with ease.
I have heard so much detail in tracks that i haven't heard before the arcam and kef combo maybe the reason for this. Vocals and female voices sound amazing and theres a sense of 3- dimensionality in the music which leaves me smiling from ear to ear.
On some songs i have actually increased the volume to 30 - 35 and at that volume sounds ample enough for my room it's actually quite loud in a good way
I can only imagine what it will sound like when there both fully run in. As you can tell i'm very happy with my purchase and can highly recommend both the kef r100s and arcam a19.
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This is very interesting - I have recently bought a set of Kef R100 and I love them! I now have my eye on this amp and will definitely be booking a demo after your review! Out of interest, what is your source?
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At the moment i'm just using my bluray player until i decide on purchasing a dac and then use either the optical or coaxial. I got my eyes on the arcam rdac as i like the idea of having the separate voltage socket on the a19 to attach a rlink or rdac to, and i'm also considering the beresford bushmaster i like the twin coaxial and optical inputs on there.
As always demoing is best and i have a good relationship with my local sevenoaks store and leading up to the arcams release the manager told me of how good it sounded as he went to an event and he got to hear it with the kef r300s which he then got into his shop for demo after being mightily impressed.
I trust his judgement as he tends to not really favour many brands but when he went on to explain the differences in previous models and he himself owns a a38 i had to get myself a demo.
I did demo various amps and speakers ranging from marantz pm6004, rotel ra-12 which i did like and the arcam. I also demoed a denon 3313 and i kept coming back to the arcam. I've never owned one before but from what i'm hearing i'm really liking.
Sorry for late reply on this thread, been away working for last 8 days.
Demo a38 and cd37 arrived safe and well last fri 1st feb from frank Harvey ,incidently top tip they were great to deal with.
Now today has been the the first day to really get the amp warmed up and tried various types of music.
Firstly for those of you that described the type of sound this pairing gives you were spot on.
Great solid deep base , with real crisp clear vocals and midrange , new upgraded morel tweeters are sounding so much sweeter.
One query I need to ask you experts is this.
When the CD player has been on for a little bit there seems to be a slight crackling in the sound, as if it was vinyl that was being played , is this due to the CD player finding small scratches on the disk due to it reading more accurately as when I plug in by old alpha 5 plus these crackles disappear .
Any feedback from you guys as always would be much appreciated.
pThanks again for great advice already
Nope. CD doesn't crackle.(And, as you said, you can't replicate it on another machine.)
Something is wrong.
CD players don't vary in their accuracy of reading discs. (Very often the transports are the same ones in both cheap players and more expensive models.)
I'd suggest the 'crackling' is in some other - most likely analogue - part of the CD player. If it were a problem reading the discs, then it wouldn't wait until it had "been on for a little bit".
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loving the demo a38 and cd37 I bought .
your description of the sound was spot on , just what I experience now, so thanks for giving me peace of mind prior to me departing with my cash.
as you know I could not get a demo listen up in north Scotland.
I have put a few new comments and the original thread regarding slight crackle from some cd's do you experience this?
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