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Yes, I have to recognize that even if not expert I still have a good eye and instinct for good quality (and unfortunately expensive) stuff. 

Yes he has Cardas cable, QED, Transparent cables, PrimaLuna etc...

Made a mistake, the 1mt ex demo was Golden reference power cable at 500 instead of 750eur. He also has golden reference 1mt interconnect as an ex demo...RCA/RCA 1k eur 

The Golden Ref power cable is brilliant and (imo) makes an appreciable difference....just make sure you know if it's being used in the demo!

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Yes, I have to recognize that even if not expert I still have a good eye and instinct for good quality (and unfortunately expensive) stuff. 

Yes he has Cardas cable, QED, Transparent cables, PrimaLuna etc...

Made a mistake, the 1mt ex demo was Golden reference power cable at 500 instead of 750eur. He also has golden reference 1mt interconnect as an ex demo...RCA/RCA 1k eur 

The Golden Ref power cable is brilliant and (imo) makes an appreciable difference....just make sure you know if it's being used in the demo!

I will ask, as I didn't check which power cable was used...

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Well, apparently I managed to convince the shop to get another AMS35i for a demo on Friday afternoon. I will call tomorrow morning for the details. 

On saturday taking my gf to "my shop" as she needs to approve ampli and speakers (she already pre-approved everything on photo, but you never know :D. Anyway impossible not to like the SF). If everything goes well I might come back with the Jadis on Saturday...even if I liked the AMS35i on Friday as I want to try the amp at home before letting 5k eur leaving my bank account :cheers: ) 

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An absolutely fascinating thread to read! I've no interest in Hi-Fi, at least not so much as to splurge a fortune on it........but this thread is definitely encouraging me to demo some high end equipment! But I won't.....don't want to spoil myself  :shame:

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An absolutely fascinating thread to read! I've no interest in Hi-Fi, at least not so much as to splurge a fortune on it........but this thread is definitely encouraging me to demo some high end equipment! But I won't.....don't want to spoil myself  :shame:

Exactly, if you don't want to spend a fortune on it DON'T start doing this. It is impossible to resist when you listen to such a musical and emotional sound...had no idea how a good source could influence the sound and my friend, it does...a lot! 

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There is some worthwhile reading, if you do a search for "advice on valve amps"....search for a forum where fish, if they were pink, might have access to media.

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There is some worthwhile reading, if you do a search for "advice on valve amps"....search for a forum where fish, if they were pink, might have access to media.

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There is some worthwhile reading, if you do a search for "advice on valve amps"....search for a forum where fish, if they were pink, might have access to media.

Smile

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 Lot of nice stuff, Lavardin, Krell, Audio Physics, SF, LV speakers and a huge collection of cds and vinyls (he also sells them).

Lavardin (C62/AP150) + LV  OBX/IBX is a combination that is also well worth hearing when in that dealer. You might as well hear one of the most musical SS amps that isn't Class A.

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 Lot of nice stuff, Lavardin, Krell, Audio Physics, SF, LV speakers and a huge collection of cds and vinyls (he also sells them).

Lavardin (C62/AP150) + LV  OBX/IBX is a combination that is also well worth hearing when in that dealer. You might as well hear one of the most musical SS amps that isn't Class A.

I think I will start taking home some amplifiers and stick with the one I like the most. For now what I heard Saturday was sublime. Going today to hear the AMS35i (finally) and tomorrow to try the Jadis with LA and maybe the Lavardin.

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Well well, very interesting music days!!! Yesterday I went with my gf to Carmina Burana concert...absolutely beautiful and spectacular. Was sitting in 3rd row in the middle, it was an amazing emotion!

Today another type of emotion as I tried finally the AMS35i and...wow...further head scratching Wink I also met Roby who came to see me during the demo and we listened together to some stuff.

We started with AMS35i + SF Cremona M...first of all the ampli is beautiful, it was black and has an amazing design with this huge volume knob in the middle. CD player was a Naim. 

We went through the usual stuff, vocal jazz, blues, acoustic, some classical and the sound was nice, very clean, the ampli is always in control...an amazing bass. This truly impressed me...this monster has the absolute control. Wasn't very convinced by the match AMS + SF Cremona. Then I asked the dealer to point me into the right direction...and he plugged a pair of Avalon Idea, same price range of the Cremona M...what a change!

These speakers are for sure on the brighter side, very detailed but very dynamic also. When I listened to the Avalon and then we replugged the SF, had the impression that they put a cover on the instruments. The sound was also more flat...you could not get all the different variations in sound we could get with the Avalon. 

Piano tracks were superb, I had a "live" impression, I could perceive every change in tone, it was like the piano was playing so much closer to us. Of course they might be a bit tiring after a while, but overall I really enjoyed how these small speakers performed with the AMS35i. Was a sure win against the SF cremona. Roby who was with me also shared same impressions...these "little" speakers are very fast and dynamic...bass was even more precise and strong...but again the amp never lost control.

We then went to another room and the guy proposed another system. A Pass amplifier (at around 10k eur) with B&W 803 (huge speakers but very nice). This time the source was very different as there was a Meridian Soolos going through the Audio Research DAC (at almost 5k eur). Room was much better in terms of acoustic and cables more expensive. BUT even considering this big gap I (and Roby agreed) still preferred the sound of AMS35 + Avalon Idea. 

I am booked now for an head to head comparison of AMS35i vs Jadis D50S...will be using a vynil as a source next time. This might be tomorrow (if I come back in time) or next week. Anyway tomorrow I am going to listen to the Jadis with Living Audio...with my gf also. Will report back mine and hers impression! Smile

 

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thank you for the latest update! I have only recently come across your threads and must say they make for a very enjoybale read!

 

Have you also listened to the MF M6i500, or was that not on your list?

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thank you for the latest update! I have only recently come across your threads and must say they make for a very enjoybale read!

 

Have you also listened to the MF M6i500, or was that not on your list?

Glad you like them! For me it's a complete new experience and I am having a lot of fun!
No, I was only considering pure class A amps or tubes as an alternative...and yesterday I tried probably the best integrated class A under 10k eur...thanks to Cno who suggested me! 

Roby, another belgian guy, tried the M6i and wrote a nice review not long ago...

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Once again, it's good to hear how you got on.

As usual, I've a few thoughts about demoing the AMS35i :

- The Naim CD would not be my choice, for what you are after....maybe something from Acoustic Research .
- If possible try the Ref 205/2s (Cardas Golden Cross cables + Golden Ref power cable - just to see).....if you get the right combination of speakers and cables, it makes all the difference.
- Maybe the LV would be worth trying as well.

Looking forward to the next instalment

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Ok...back from heaven of music! Smile

My gf just loved the combination Jadis + SF Guarneri...so in the end we got home a Jadis D50S for a month! The dealer just replaced the standard KT88 fwith 4 Jadis KT90. He said they are more powerful...once I listened to it again I was really "kidnapped" by the sound...it seems everything so magic...

We also plugged the Living Audio speakers floorstanders...great sound, brighter, very detailed, very fast speaker. BUT imaging was smaller than SF, compared to the Guarner it sounded more boxy. With Guarneri music was all around us...same impression my gf shared. Wasn't better in terms of basses...something that really surprised me considering the difference in size, but the delaer said the Guarneri have probably one of the best drivers in the world. I tend to agree...after trying the SF Cremona M yesterday night, the Guarneri seems to me way ahead in terms of sonic performances...

Next time I will be trying the Lavardin with the Living Audio, the dealer itself said that's an amazing and perfect combination.

I am so excited...can't wait to plug my speakers and let some music flow through the air....

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