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Paul. wrote:

Yep.  I made a typo.  Its a regular occurrence.  Forgive me for miss-spelling the imaginatively named string of letters!  Still dodging the question huh?

Paul,

You didn't have an accurate question for me to answer.  However I shall tell you what I know and don't know.  

Firstly I have no idea what  you regard as 'Dance Music',  I suspect what you mean is music with electronically produced/enhanced deep bass.  Dance music sites seem to suggest that such artistes as Massive Attack, Kraftwerk, The Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim and if this is what  you mean then I am able to talk from experience.  In fact these artists are among my most played music.

Now to massive space, the OP had a 6m x 6m room but with an open to rafters ceiling of unstated height.  My room is approx 6.3m x 5m x 3m[high] and I don't consider this to be massive even by the stretch of your imaginings.  I sit about 4.5m away from the speaker line and I find the quantity of bass to be acceptable and pleasurable although I am sure that someone who is fixated with boom would want a greater quantity.  The quality is another thing altogether, exceptional and I would suggest, much better than from a pair of passive floorstanders and amp for £1500. 

My speakers are the AVI ADM 9T which are available with dedicated sub.  The ones that have been recommended, AS A POSSIBILITY for the OPand the first responder, are the AVI ADM 9RS or 9RSS which have greater output in the bass.

My speakers have never been called upon to kick me in the chest, at 6 metres or at any other distance,

Now Paul, has anything that I have said helped you at all?

Where did you get the idea that the OP was a fan of dance music?  OP said, "I listen to all kinds of music but do like early 90's house music, with lots of piano sections and female vocals!"  So listens to all kinds of music, including 90's house and lots of piano and female vocals.

His music choice actually gives greater validity to AVI ADM 9RS/S being suggested, piano and female voice are sublime on my 9s.  Unfortunately Paul your judgement and questioning has been derailed by not reading and recalling the given information accurately and therefore jumping to inaccurate conclusions.

As has been suggested the AVI ADM 9RS/S could well be the best recommendation because even if more bass were needed the dedicated sub could be purchased later.  Quality maintained just extended down a bit.  

Where do you go from a budget pair of floorstanders and amp?  Back to square one and with time and £1500 wasted, apart from the resale value.

I trust Paul, that all the above helps you and that you have taken the time to read what I have said.  Not what you want to think I have said.

beauty, eh

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It is, of course, unthinkable that someone may not like the sound of the ADMs?

Personally, I'd think the Dynaudio Xeos would be a better choice if you want actives. Quality Danish product, using in-house drivers, plenty of dealers, plus plenty of products which means they should be around for a while. Still think they're a bit small for the space.

 

Thought of Klipsch floorstanders? Easy to drive, not demanding of amps, nice big sound.

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Just thought, Acoustic Energy AE2's might fit the bill if he did not mind standmounts then, wont do the deepest bass though but what is there is tight, punchy and very well controlled. Other than that, the Kord Tornado/Quested 8" Monitor may well do very well.

Of course, none of those look that attractive compared to the modern 'lifestyle' sized speakers.

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altruistic.lemon wrote:

It is, of course, unthinkable that someone may not like the sound of the ADMs?.

Why, ever, would you say such a preposterous thing?  

There are, or were, people on this very forum who decry the sound of ADMs.  I think JD doesn't like them, hopefully if this is the case he has had a good listen to them.  I don't think he is a man of prejudice.

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relocated wrote:

Why shoot yourself in the foot/mouth/pen?  A really interesting and relevent post until the last line when you fall back into nonsense.  Such a shame that you demean yourself like that.

Neither you nor jcbrum have answered my question and explained where the extra 9dbs at the NEC came from?

 

Of course it's nonsense that 9 is the answer to life the universe and everything. Just as it's nonsense that 42 is. Just as it's nonsense that a towel is the single most important piece of equipment for intergalactic hitch-hikers.

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relocated wrote:

Paul. wrote:

Yep.  I made a typo.  Its a regular occurrence.  Forgive me for miss-spelling the imaginatively named string of letters!  Still dodging the question huh?

Paul,

You didn't have an accurate question for me to answer.  However I shall tell you what I know and don't know.  

Firstly I have no idea what  you regard as 'Dance Music',  I suspect what you mean is music with electronically produced/enhanced deep bass.  Dance music sites seem to suggest that such artistes as Massive Attack, Kraftwerk, The Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim and if this is what  you mean then I am able to talk from experience.  In fact these artists are among my most played music.

Now to massive space, the OP had a 6m x 6m room but with an open to rafters ceiling of unstated height.  My room is approx 6.3m x 5m x 3m[high] and I don't consider this to be massive even by the stretch of your imaginings.  I sit about 4.5m away from the speaker line and I find the quantity of bass to be acceptable and pleasurable although I am sure that someone who is fixated with boom would want a greater quantity.  The quality is another thing altogether, exceptional and I would suggest, much better than from a pair of passive floorstanders and amp for £1500. 

My speakers are the AVI ADM 9T which are available with dedicated sub.  The ones that have been recommended, AS A POSSIBILITY for the OPand the first responder, are the AVI ADM 9RS or 9RSS which have greater output in the bass.

My speakers have never been called upon to kick me in the chest, at 6 metres or at any other distance,

Now Paul, has anything that I have said helped you at all?

Where did you get the idea that the OP was a fan of dance music?  OP said, "I listen to all kinds of music but do like early 90's house music, with lots of piano sections and female vocals!"  So listens to all kinds of music, including 90's house and lots of piano and female vocals.

His music choice actually gives greater validity to AVI ADM 9RS/S being suggested, piano and female voice are sublime on my 9s.  Unfortunately Paul your judgement and questioning has been derailed by not reading and recalling the given information accurately and therefore jumping to inaccurate conclusions.

As has been suggested the AVI ADM 9RS/S could well be the best recommendation because even if more bass were needed the dedicated sub could be purchased later.  Quality maintained just extended down a bit.  

Where do you go from a budget pair of floorstanders and amp?  Back to square one and with time and £1500 wasted, apart from the resale value.

I trust Paul, that all the above helps you and that you have taken the time to read what I have said.  Not what you want to think I have said.

beauty, eh

1500 pounds wasted ..... Hardly

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Relocated will you be coming to Scalford on the 3rd of March 2013? Will any AVI owners be coming to Scalford this year by car?

 

If you are, then please bring your AVI's to my large room where we can spend a few minutes comparing them against my large passive speakers. This will then allow you to speak with some authority on how AVI's compare against decent large passive speakers in a large room.

 

Would it be fair to say that the expectation that AVI owners have is that my speakers will have more bass, but that it won't be as tight as AVI bass and it won't be as detailed? Also that you expect the AVI's to have more clarity in the midrange? Better imaging? That the AVI's will sound equally or more dynamic? That the AVI's will sound clearer and more natural in the treble because they will have less tizz? Well, let's find out...

 

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I'd pop down for that Smile

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relocated wrote:

Where do you go from a budget pair of floorstanders and amp?  Back to square one and with time and £1500 wasted, apart from the resale value.

 

Sorry, missing the connection between £1500 wasted when spent on a pair of good floorstanderrs and an amp.  "Budget" is your choice of words Ward.  Do you want to clarify that for my purposes please?

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I'd pop down for that Smile

Its worth a journey, looking forward to Linsays room on my half hour whistle stop tour!

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The Scalford event sounds like something I might enjoy. Never been interested in the more conventional hi Fi shows. 

 

But,having looked in google maps I see its over 2 1/2 hours away. 

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But,having looked in google maps I see its over 2 1/2 hours away. 

Worth it for the new experience? Fresh knowledge? And how well the AVI's compare to horrendously distorted passive speakers!  Wink

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

richardw42 wrote:
But,having looked in google maps I see its over 2 1/2 hours away. 

Worth it for the new experience? Fresh knowledge? And how well the AVI's compare to horrendously distorted passive speakers!  Wink

You old jest you! Tongue out

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I couldn't be bothered with all that. Somebody else would have to bring theirs. 

 

I had 25 years of conventional hi Fi, so I have some experience comparing what I have now. But nowhere as much as most of you. 

 

ery happy with my set up, I'll leave it to the experts to settle this Smile

you have to feel for the OP in these types of threads. 

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richardw42 wrote:

But,having looked in google maps I see its over 2 1/2 hours away. 

 

But RIch mate, that's easy travelling distance to get a pair of AVI speakers dem'd at another owner's house!  A mere spit of a distance!  

 

(Hush mah mouth!)   Smile

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