Somewhat of a sideway, I know (though less so than the latest 3 pages), but what about the opposite? When is a room too small for speakers with lots of bass? Has that to do with the distance of the speakers to the listening seat, or to the front wall? Or is it just the cubic metres of air that are 'pressurized' by the speakers' bass output?
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If you JCBrum, or anyone else, enjoys the thin and lean sound of ADM 9's which becomes very thin and lean in a large room, and you enjoy the bass transient distortion of AVI ADM 9's then that is your prerogative. But for you to then go into complete denial that these exist, well that to me is just complete marketing poppycock. The sort of marketing poppycock that is annoying and is tantamount to miss-selling the product.
Well lindsayt, you seem to have a bee in your bonnet, and some sort of axe to grind about this.
Your views are your invention, not supported by the reviews of AVI ADM9 speakers from Andrew Everard of Gramophone magazine, and indeed What Hi-Fi magazine who gave them a five star rating.
Frankly, your views are so far removed from reality, as confirmed by the thousands of satisfied users of AVI loudspeakers, many of whom report their findings on various media and websites, as to be the ramblings of deliberate prejudice, and a misguided psychology.
It is ridiculous to suggest that the excellence of AVI loudspeakers is a myth dependent merely on fictitious 'shills'.
Quite frankly, reading your drivel, is a waste of time.
All anyone has to do is simply listen to AVI speakers, and/or speak directly to people who own and use them.
Failing that, buy some and try them. They hold their value very well and re-sell easily. That alone suggests your above assessment is incorrect.
anything from adam audio in their tensor range should do the trick, or get a second hand pair of linn isobariks.
cost alot of dough though do the tensors
If you are open to actives there are a few on the forums that have Event Opals.
They're probably not the most sympathetic looks wise (milled from ally), but they have the power.
I've not heard these myself yet, but they consistently get excellent reviews, think they're in the region of 2k in the UK
The room is nearly 32 ft x 32 ft, so maybe one of the owners on here could comment on how it might cope...........a possible for the shortlist though.
I've had mine in a much bigger room for a birthday party, I didn't get the tape measure out but would guess the room was around 30 x 50 feet. Obviously it wasn't the environment for 'critical listening' (really hate that phrase), but they had more than enough power for the space. Also, can't see why the ADMs plus sub couldn't cope either - 30 x 30 foot is big but not that big (my room is 28 feet long and 20 feet wide at its widest), and they go very loud. It's an avenue worth considering by the op.
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Yeah, except the OP would like his speakers veneered with real wood...
Let's wait until the war is over, and then ask again...
You mean he isn't keen on black painted metal? Some people...
I've had mine in a much bigger room for a birthday party...
I know some people love their speakers, but giving them birthday parties ?
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Very good Chebby.
Now if only you could get over seeing owners of AVI ADMs recounting and recommending their speakers as 'marketing and advertising' you would sound pleasantly normal. Although as AVI bashing is so prevalent on here perhaps you would then become abnormal.
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Perhaps I could throw a second curve-ball into this thread and suggest you start a new thread.
Now if only you could get over seeing owners of AVI ADMs recounting and recommending their speakers as 'marketing and advertising'
I was referring to the marketing and PR style chosen by AVI themselves and the way in which it's conducted by them.
Name other UK hi-fi companies whose MD/CEO/owners conduct their own marketing and PR in person on hi-fi forums and who engage potential customers in discussions, arguments, attacks, insults against beliefs, insults against lifestyles, insults against chosen computer systems (unless Apple), insults against other hi-fi companies, insults against their taste... etc. and so on.
As I said before - quite a few times - it's not the technology or the products, it's the conduct of the MD.
What his followers do or say wouldn't be pertinent if he conducted himself like a responsible industry spokesman. (Can't blame a company for it's followers unless they are actively encouraged by the example of it's most senior person.)
It's your total inability to accept, let alone suggest, any other solution that is the problem.
Do you accept that there are better speakers than AVI?
I am really sorry, Lemon, that you are so challenged in the recall department.
You should be fully aware, because I have said it often enough generally and specifically to you, that. I do not recommend anything to anyone, if I do not own it or have not had a decent amount of time experiencing it.
Unlike many others I will not suggest kit that I have not owned or have had little experience of [yes that's repitition, hopefully that is helping you in case you have got confused again already]. It is not fair to OPs and others. There is enough miss-informed speculation and lies out there already and I have no wish to add to it. I merely pass on my experience of certain kit in the context of 40-odd years of listening to, selling and owning hifi.
I have no wish to speculate on, or search for, other speakers or other hifi kit. I have found what I have spent 40 years searching for. Very many have promised much and delivered less, but AVI has delivered and then some [well a great deal actually].
That, to my mind, is worth other people knowing about and OPs and others have the perfect right to ignore the advice I give. But at least I have passed on genuine knowledge and experience, not speculation or lies.
I don't decry other suggestions, I just make my own. Give it a try sometime, it might actually make you relevant once in a while.
i can sympathise with people who are not AVI owners or even potential ones. As it gets a bit overwhelming especially if an annoyance already exists.
Personally I really like the way Ashley communicates directly with the ownes on forum, email, by phone. Both pairs of my speakers were personally delivered and set up by Ashley.
Or we engage with large companies with many tiers of sales/management.
Is viral marketing of this kind (if it happens) any worse then a nationally regarded magazine throwing 5 star reviews at big advertisers.
And I have bought on WHF recommendations and been very happy.
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