I can understand your reservations, given your prelidictions for your favourite type of speakers, but myself and many others can assure you that the ADM9 RSS sound (current model) is indeed deep and rich sounding, but without the boom and distortion of big old legacy designs. If you want them even deeper (not everyone does) simply add the sub.
You're talking rubbish. Seemingly simply to provoke antagonism and argument. It's foolish.
JT71, the AVI speakers are a serious suggestion. Maybe a visit to the AVI forum would provide some further opinion from people who already use their speakers in large rooms. You might even find someone close to your location who would give you an audition.
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I don't know about that.......you figured thar 6.5" into 1000 sq ft was unlikely to go.
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when I read the opening post in this thread I only wondered how long it will take before AVI brigade starts their dance.
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can you let me know if in your opinion let's say a pair of Monitor Audio RX1 (or any other ported two-way mini monitor sporting a 6,5" woofer) mated to a 400W (into 4 Ohm load) power amp would do as well in a 1000sq ft room as a pair of AVI 9RS?
in about 8m*13m room I would only recommend a two-way monitor for non critical background listening, unless listened to nearfield. for room filling, bass heavy experience the OP should look elsewhere. I'd find 1500 GBP a tight budget for the room size, unless I went second hand.
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The sound of hi-fi equipment is all relative. Relative to the sound of other hi-fi equipment. Relative to the sound the actual musicians made in the concert hall or recording booth when the recording was made.
Compared to the cheapest tiniest transistor radio, AVI ADM 9's will have a rich and deep sound in a very large room. Compared to the sort of speakers I recommended in my first post in this thread, the ADM 9's do not have a rich and deep sound. I've already offered to demonstrate this in a very large room earlier this year in a previous "speakers for a large room thread." No AVI owners took me up on my offer. Compared to the real thing: actual bass guitars, bass synths and bass drums the ADM 9's do not have a rich and deep sound.
On bass transients, the ADM 9's have far more distortion than the sort of speaker I recommended earlier in this thread. You can say what you like about distortion JCBrum, doesn't mean to say it has any truth to it. Especially not in the light of the lack of any sort of independent measurements or listening tests comparing the ADM 9's against the sort of speakers I recommended for this thread.
And why do you keep repeatedly saying that old legacy designs boom and have distortion when you haven't even heard the ones that I recommend? Again you can say what you like, but we can all draw our own opinions on you saying this when you have no experience on what you're criticising.
And as for adding the 10" AVI sub. Well that's a single 10" driver spread over two channels. All of the speakers I recommended had one 15" bass driver per channel or multiple 12" bass drivers per channel, meaning that all of the speakers I recomended had over 4 times the bass cone area of the AVI sub. Bass cone area counts for a lot in getting a low distortion, rich deep sound in a 1000sq ft room.
JT you have what is described as very good gear and it would be very difficult to up sticks and move to a different way. For your budget of £1500 I fear you will swop one disappointment for another.
On sound terms the ADMs could well fill your room and with the addition of the dedicated sub undoubtedly would. Unfortunately the 9 series only come in black or white gloss [piano] finish so wouldn't suit.
What would fit the bill is the AVI ADM 40s. Active floorstanders of immense power and scale that provide you with DAC, pre and power amps, remote control, 2 analogue and 4 digital inputs. Power and interconnect leads are also supplied. The cost is £3250, a long way from £1.5k or £2k; however selling your other gear would mitigate the difference.
I appreciate that this is a proper curve-ball but it would sort out your dilemma in one swoop. Everything you need for superb quality sound in a pair of floor-standers, just add your sources.
In view of the fact that ADM 40's are well over budget at £3250 compared to the £1500 budget. And the fact that they are a slimline ported 2 way design with tiny bass cones combined with the fact that the room is 1000sq ft and the original poster is looking for a rich and deep sound. Also in view of the gushing prose in praise of the ADM 40's "floorstanders of immense power and scale" and "Everything you need for superb quality sound" with no mention of any shortcomings when compared to other speakers.
Then I think it's reasonable to say that this post comes across as off-topic advertising.
Quote = lindsayt, Compared to the real thing: actual bass guitars, bass synths and bass drums the ADM 9's do not have a rich and deep sound.
This is a false statement. One of the strengths of AVI loudspeakers, noted very widely by many users, is their realism and fidelity.
Quote = lindsayt, On bass transients, the ADM 9's have far more distortion than the sort of speaker I recommended earlier in this thread.
This is again simply untrue. Most of the speakers you favour are 'big old legacy' designs from the past. Technology advances in driver designs have made big advances. Particularly in the reduction of distortion. AVI are noted for pursuing the advantages of leading edge designs in driver technology.
By now, literally thousands of users have made their choice by purchasing, and attesting to the excellence and realism of AVI speakers. To suggest that this is the opinion of a few 'paid shills', is ridiculous.
I'd also point out literally tens of thousands of users have made their choice and have bought B&W, Spendor, Sonus Faber, Focal, Canton etc etc attesting to the excellence and realism of those speakers. Of course, the fact someone buys a certain speaker may have nothing to do excellence or realism, so essentially that's a non sequitor.
Why are you so on-eyed in this matter, JCB? Is it friendship, or do you really believe there are no better speakers than AVI in the world?
£3250 on an entire speaker/amp/dac/pre-amp system would lead me to thinking... "who is going to service or mend this gear in 10, 20 year's time?"
It's a lot of money (it is to me anyway) and for many will represent a very long term system choice. Such an investment makes me think of companies like Naim, Linn, Rega, Quad ... etc. (even Yamaha) who can still support their stuff decades after it was made.
It's even more important with AVI ADM40s, given that no individual system component can be replaced in isolation (like a seperate amp or DAC or speakers) if it degrades/deteriorates/breaks many years down the line. The whole thing has to go back to AVI.
Are AVI putting aside reasonable amounts of spares for all of their models? Do they support equipment they made 10 or 20 years ago? (It was always pretty pricey stuff.) Does the company have the degree of 'continuity' you would hope for if £3250 represents a significant long term investment to you?
Something like a NaimUniti 2 all-in-one (best part of £3K) is also a case of putting (almost) 'all your eggs in one basket', but they give out 5 year guarantees and can also service and repair kit bought from them decades ago. Their survival in 10, 20 years time is not dependent on the founders still running the business. (Obviously any company can cease trading for any reason, but one that is entirely run and staffed by two men of retirement/near-retirement age is less likely to be trading by then.)
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