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Naim Ovator S-400 vs Sonus Faber Venere 3.0

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l'm looking for speakers, this is my two options so far. Any suggestions are welcomed.

My room is 35m2 and my amp is Devialet 110

Thanks alot!

pakard

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RE: Naim Ovator S-400 vs Sonus Faber Venere 3.0

Hi there, and welcome to the forum.

A couple of questions to help narrow the search:

- What sort of music do you listen to?

- How do you like your music presented ie. Clean and forward giving a "warts and all" presentation, or sweet yet detailed?

- What is your max budget?

- Have you heard any brands that you have liked, and what makes have you got access to......what did you initially hear the Devialet with?

You have a brilliant amp, so you need to go armed with any suggestions you might get, and go listen...then try your couple of favorites at home.

It is worth keeping an eye on this thread: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/the-devialet-thread

And there is also this one: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/speakers-for-devialet-170

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Hi and welcome to the fun!

Good to see another Devialet owner on the forum. I've been reporting on my experiences of looking for speakers for my Dev 170 on The Devialet Thread.

It looks like you've decided in favour of floorstanders, and you have quite a large room. In that vein and in the same price range as the Ovators and Veneres: PMC OB1i, Audiovector Si3 Super/Signature, Spendor D7, new (curved) ATC SCM40, Proac D28, Neat Momentum 4i,  Kudos Super 20, KEF R900 or Reference 203/2.

beauty, eh

Matt

EDIT: my post crossed with Cno's.

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matt49 wrote:

EDIT: my post crossed with Cno's.

It's more your show, than mine.  excellent!

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RE: Naim Ovator S-400 vs Sonus Faber Venere 3.0

I cannot imagine using Naim's speakers with anything but their amps.  Sf any day for me, but I am a fan.  I have heard the Cremona M with the original Devialet and cannot imagine the UK speaker would sound better. 

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nopiano wrote:

I have heard the Cremona M with the original Devialet and cannot imagine the UK speaker would sound better. 

No argument from me.  silenced

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RE: Naim Ovator S-400 vs Sonus Faber Venere 3.0

Im listening many types of music, Jazz, Blues, Electronic, Pop, Acoustic, Trip Hop...

 

Also i have option to take Guarneri Memento second hand (condition 10/10) for 6,5k euros and i think il take them...

 

P.S. I dont have chance to make audition at my home :\

 

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pakard wrote:

Also i have option to take Guarneri Memento second hand (condition 10/10) for 6,5k euros and i think il take them...

P.S. I dont have chance to make audition at my home :\

thanks!

I'd take them, that's all I can tell you.  rockin out

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pakard wrote:

Also i have option to take Guarneri Memento second hand (condition 10/10) for 6,5k euros and i think il take them...

P.S. I dont have chance to make audition at my home :\

I've never heard the Guarneri Mementos, but they have an excellent reputation, and for (some of) your music they should be lovely. (Not sure about trip hop though.) If it turned out that the speakers and amp didn't combine well, I guess you could always sell them on without too much of a loss.

Good luck, and let us know how you get on!

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Its fine, my trip hop is only a small part.

In what aspect you think that Devialet will not combine well with the Memento?

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pakard wrote:

Its fine, my trip hop is only a small part.

In what aspect you think that Devialet will not combine well with the Memento?

Thanks

Matt can speak for himself, but I suspect he is being cautious, given how much you will be spending without a demo.

Personally, I'd be amazed if it wasn't one of the most musical systems on here.

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pakard wrote:

In what aspect you think that Devialet will not combine well with the Memento?

Well, you never know until you've tried ...

I do have a specific issue with my Dev 170 and Cremona Auditor Ms, which is that the mid/bass driver seems to be overloaded when listening to music with electric bass guitars. It's fine if I fill the rear ports with foam though. The Guarneri Mementos are also rear ported.

You say you can't do a home demo of the Guarneris: can you take your Dev 110 along to a demo?

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I will try, il let you know

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pakard wrote:

Im listening many types of music, Jazz, Blues, Electronic, Pop, Acoustic, Trip Hop...

 

Also i have option to take Guarneri Memento second hand (condition 10/10) for 6,5k euros and i think il take them...

 

P.S. I dont have chance to make audition at my home :\

 

thanks!

Hello pakard,

Welcome to the Dev-club, section 110!

In my opinion, the Guarneri Memento looks like a good deal, but not a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity (official retail price €9400). If you have this kind of money available, and keeping your room size in mind: do you have access to Quad ESLs? If you have any chance to hear them, driven by a Devialet, you should give it a try before deciding. Unless you're in a hurry... Or anyone uses his/her veto against speakers this size...

beauty, eh

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RE: Naim Ovator S-400 vs Sonus Faber Venere 3.0

Between the two I would go for the Sonus Faber as it's a much more refined speaker. I've never been attracted to the Ovator - a bit too in-your-face for me.

Having said that, I have no experience with the Devialet amp. Perhaps a good middle ground might be the new ProAc D30 (not sure if the D28 is still being made?).

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Singslinger wrote:
Between the two I would go for the Sonus Faber as it's a much more refined speaker. I've never been attracted to the Ovator - a bit too in-your-face for me. Having said that, I have no experience with the Devialet amp. Perhaps a good middle ground might be the new ProAc D30 (not sure if the D28 is still being made?).

I have never got on with the Ovators.....but only heard them on the end of Naim systems.

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