Unfortunately that's what happens when a product loses it's margin to heavily discounting retailers...
David @Frank Harvey Hi-Fi, Coventry
Yes but I would not want to pay over £1,000 for one.
Of course not, especially when they retail for less than £1k!
OK they used to be £1,000.
I can't remember which one I checked now (amp or cd), but it was showing rrp as £919.
I've had b&w cm1's, great sounding speakers.
My current ls50's have as much bass as the b&w's it's just better defined in it's texture and control.
The ls50's function bettter in smaller rooms.
Active speakers have a great price-performance ratio , but at this moment (as I already have a decent system) I am not really interested in that option. From what I have read about ADM I also fear that they might sound a little too analytical for my taste.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'analytical', but active speakers generally suffer from less distortion than passive speakers and in the case of monitors, are designed to reproduce the music as closley as possible to the recording. That's not to say that you'll find that a good thing, but they are not typically designed to have any inherent colouration, although design limitations mean that obviously some will exist.
Your initial post suggests that actives could be ideal for you. I understand that you have a system that you are happy with, but you intimated replacing speakers and then possibly having to upgrade the amp. For the same overall outlay (taking into consideration any residual value of existing kit) you could achieve the same result via actives, possibly even with a sub. The ADMs are my second set of active speakers, they might well be my last.
Whatever you decide, have fun and enjoy the music.
Mac mini > AVI ADM9Ts
Not again, please. Just because you like active speakers it doesn't mean they are to everyone's taste.
Amp: Leema Pulse; Source: Naim CD5i-2, Denon 260MKII, Pro-ject XP I; Speakers: PMC TB2i
Formerly known as plastic penguin
The OP wouldn't know if they were to his taste as he clearly hasn't heard actives, much like many other naysayers it seems. My opinion is no less valid than any other so far and might actually be the perfect solution in this instance.
Maybe instead of displaying you negative bias, you could constructively advise the OP why active speakers and in particular, the ADM9s might not be ideal?
I do appreciate your input Overdose. The problem is that it's impossible to demo ADM in Belgium. I would audition these speakers if I could because I absolutely see the benefits of such an approach.
No problem. I guess Ulft is too far?
A bit too far unfortunately. The distance is 230 miles according to Google Maps.
Hmm, bit of a trek.
OD - couldn't agree more. Of course they could be the perfect solution, or they may not. If the OP had originally asked about the virtues of actives, that would be different. As he's looking at upgrading to (possibly) LS50s he'll have to decide whether the traditional route or actives is the better option or not.
I'm not a naysayer. How could I be without hearing them. On a personal level, I have so many analogue sources that a trad amp is preferable. Even if the ADMs might be technically better than my Leema there's little chance they'll have the tonal qualities I look for. Plus I actually like boxes. Strange cat I know.
This is starting to veer off topic (sorry OP), but I feel that I need to qualify why I (and others probably) recommend and rate the ADMs so much.
I am fully sold on actives for the usual reasons and depending on budget, would recommend a variety of active speakers. The thing is that the ADMs are not just the active speaker component, but also preamp and DAC. It is this that makes them a suitable recommendation for a wide range of situations and budgets up to and beyond £2K (how much further beyond £2K will be open to debate).
Other actives are available of course, but most in the sensible money ballpark are proaudio. It is only Dynaudio Xeo range that currently offer something close to the ADMs in terms of function and looks as far as trad hifi goes, but having had very similar speakers in the form of the BM5A, I would recommend the ADMs over the Xeo 3's for at least two reasons.
Brand A or B might be the topic starter, but it's only reasonable to suggest brand C or others that the OP might not be aware of and might also be a better solution.
It might seem alarming to some, but it really isn't like a Borg invasion, simply that the ADMs tick a lot of boxes.
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