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Hate the looks

Why'd you buy it then?

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plastic penguin wrote:
Hate the looks

Why'd you buy it then?

I actually took the Rega Dac home to listen with my set-up - using the Arcam  as transport- wasn't totally convinced by the sound and he offered me Naim CDP for a silly price as trade-in, and against the Rega it was a decent improvement. Didn't have the Leema with me in the shop, as wasn't intending on taking it any further. Took a calculated risk on the sound - worked nicely - hoped I'd adjust to the looks. Haven't unfortunately.

Keep my eyes closed the sound is divine. Visually it is pants. 

I'm not a vain person. You could describe the Arcam/Leema as a Plain Jane but very acceptable to look at. The Naim/Leema, on the other hand, is more like the Elephant man.

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What about an Arcam CD 17 in silver (obviously!) The Exposure CD players in silver look good too.

Paul

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plastic penguin wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:
Hate the looks

Why'd you buy it then?

I actually took the Rega Dac home to listen with my set-up - using the Arcam  as transport- wasn't totally convinced by the sound and he offered me Naim CDP for a silly price as trade-in, and against the Rega it was a decent improvement. Didn't have the Leema with me in the shop, as wasn't intending on taking it any further. Took a calculated risk on the sound - worked nicely - hoped I'd adjust to the looks. Haven't unfortunately.

Keep my eyes closed the sound is divine. Visually it is pants. 

I'm not a vain person. You could describe the Arcam/Leema as a Plain Jane but very acceptable to look at. The Naim/Leema, on the other hand, is more like the Elephant man.

 

Interesting!

I beleieve the transport (arcam) was the weak link!

Hook the Rega DAC up to a NAS then you can see what the Rega DAC can do! and yes the Rega DAC/NAS outperforms my Apollo R/SBT as transports!

I really honestly think I will not buy another CD player again!

 

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RE: Naim 5i-2 vs Roksan Kandy K2 CDP

I did give my explanation on here http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/ooooh-ive-got-a-rega-dac.

In a pure shoot-out between the two I preferred the Naim's tonal balance. As you rightly said it could possibly be the Arcam letting the side down.

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What about an Arcam CD 17 in silver (obviously!) The Exposure CD players in silver look good too.

Paul

Yes, Matthew mentioned this. Seems like the obv route, although I'll probably hold out for the CD37.

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Got my old Rotel RCD 975 down from the attic. Sounds surprisingly good with the Leema, but not quite the all-round ability of the Naim, more on par with cd73T. Although very old really enjoying a blast from the past.

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plastic penguin wrote:

Although very old really enjoying a blast from the past.

I thought you had youth on your side!  :shifty:

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plastic penguin wrote:

John Duncan wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:
Hate the looks

Why'd you buy it then?

I actually took the Rega Dac home to listen with my set-up - using the Arcam  as transport- wasn't totally convinced by the sound and he offered me Naim CDP for a silly price as trade-in, and against the Rega it was a decent improvement. Didn't have the Leema with me in the shop, as wasn't intending on taking it any further. Took a calculated risk on the sound - worked nicely - hoped I'd adjust to the looks. Haven't unfortunately.

Keep my eyes closed the sound is divine. Visually it is pants. 

I'm not a vain person. You could describe the Arcam/Leema as a Plain Jane but very acceptable to look at. The Naim/Leema, on the other hand, is more like the Elephant man.

 

Interesting!

I beleieve the transport (arcam) was the weak link!

Hook the Rega DAC up to a NAS then you can see what the Rega DAC can do! and yes the Rega DAC/NAS outperforms my Apollo R/SBT as transports!

I really honestly think I will not buy another CD player again!

Am listening to Naim cd5xs, falling in love, comparing it to rega dac and naim dac v-1 fed from DVD5, all different but the cd5xs reminds me why i fell in love with the naim sound. Just so damn listenable and just made sense of music.  Smooth, very full sounding but plenty bite and nice with my dodgy rock collection.

The rega seems to have more weight, the naim dac lighter but has prestine upper range with nice clarity. Naim dac also more foot tapping / involving than rega. I still love the rega, not sure which dac i prefer for overall listenability.

Anyway, my thoughts were always that my source was the strong part of my system (SBT - Rega DAC) and looked to speakers (petite SX) and amp Nait XS but trying out the cd5xs i think my source is weakest link and my nait 5i & motive 3 speakers can deliver quite some more.

Interesting learning process this \HI \Fi THING!!

Never say never steve Smile

PS - spotted new motive sx speaker july!!!!!!

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Random thought and not really a suggestions - Has anyone ever heard of anyone who does case modding for HiFi? Something with some flames, racing stripes and spoilers might work wonders for the Naim...

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I'm not usually one for text speak but I actually did laugh out loud at this so LOL! 

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I've borrowed a Rega DAC for 24 hours.  Hopefully it will help you to hear my thoughts on a comparison with the Roksan PP...

The Rega DAC (fed by SBT/FLAC files or CD transport) is more overtly detailed and widescreen than the Roksan, and initially comes across as bass light in comparison.  Where the Roksan paints in broad, atmospheric strokes with a substantial and warm bass, the Rega paints with small and delicate brush strokes communicating every detail and really opening up the mix.  They are both excellent, but give completely different sounds.  It certainly impressed me how much of the difference my budget Denon amp and Q Acoustics speakers show up.  As to which I prefer, I'm not sure.  I've got so much admiration for the talents of the Rega, yet I occasionally miss a little warmth.  Maybe that slight lack of warmth is something you get used to - I'll see how I feel when I listen again tomorrow afternoon.  Sometimes when listening to the Roksan I miss some of the openess and delicacy that the Rega brings.  Maybe the ideal lies somewhere in-between the two....  Maybe that somewhere in-between is otherwise known as Arcam...

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Or maybe that somewhere in-between could potentially be something from Denon or Marantz...

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You have the Rega DAC now then?

Well I have had my Rega DAC for nearly a year now, it has been used with a SBT then my Apollo R as transports..... all good!

Just got a NAS last week, files are ALAC, its connected up to my Rega DAC via USB (my printer cable) - Sweet Holy Jesus!!! No transport, just direct data stream (bit perfect) from the NAS and everything has opened up, bags more detail - I knew the DAC was good but its on a different level now, it truly is blowing me away at the minute - sorry for boring you all!

 

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You have the Rega DAC now then?

Well I have had my Rega DAC for nearly a year now, it has been used with a SBT then my Apollo R as transports..... all good!

Just got a NAS last week, files are ALAC, its connected up to my Rega DAC via USB (my printer cable) - Sweet Holy Jesus!!! No transport, just direct data stream (bit perfect) from the NAS and everything has opened up, bags more detail - I knew the DAC was good but its on a different level now, it truly is blowing me away at the minute - sorry for boring you all!

 

Only on a loan Steve to help me try to work out where to go next with my system.

Your experience with the NAS sounds interesting.  If I eventually go down the DAC route I'll investigate a NAS.

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stevebrock wrote:

You have the Rega DAC now then?

Well I have had my Rega DAC for nearly a year now, it has been used with a SBT then my Apollo R as transports..... all good!

Just got a NAS last week, files are ALAC, its connected up to my Rega DAC via USB (my printer cable) - Sweet Holy Jesus!!! No transport, just direct data stream (bit perfect) from the NAS and everything has opened up, bags more detail - I knew the DAC was good but its on a different level now, it truly is blowing me away at the minute - sorry for boring you all!

 

Only on a loan Steve to help me try to work out where to go next with my system.

Your experience with the NAS sounds interesting.  If I eventually go down the DAC route I'll investigate a NAS.

flipping nightmare aint it!

So many variables! As you know I love the Rega sound, but If  was starting fresh would problably look at the all-in-ones from Naim or Linn

I have had the consversation with a few people now and they all agree about NAS > DAC ie doing away with tthe transport 

 

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