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RE: NAD D 3020 Amplifer

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I had been toying with the idea of the NAD but the more I listen to my system and the more I think about it, the less keen I am.  I really do think the Denon PMA720AE and Pioneer's A30 are the under-rated gems of the affordable amplifier world.

I think, in the end, I will probably just add a decent DAC to my system and stick with the Denon as the urge to change it gets ever tinier every time I play music through it.

 

Yes, remember the 1500s you had.  Don't make the same Denon mistake twice Matthew!!

No I won't RS.  I've been listening with my headphones more again recently and the Denon even has a very decent headphone output too.

Long term I would like the 1520s, certainly the amp, so I might try to save up for those, but I'm convinced the Denon sound is for me.

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RE: NAD D 3020 Amplifer

chebby wrote:

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Rotel isn't British.  They are Japanese.

Spoilsport.

Timothy was getting up a good head of steam with his 'undeniable' British bias theory.

Yes, Rotel have always been Japanese.

Even during their relationships with other companies (like Rank / Wharfedale / Leak in the 1970s and B&W more recently), neither company ever had any financial stake in Rotel. They have always been wholly owned by the same family in Japan.

Missing the point methinks.  It is not only who owns a company but also where the designing is done and who influences that...now Rotel has a much more non-Japanese influence...methinks

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RE: NAD D 3020 Amplifer

Baldrick1 wrote:

chebby wrote:

matthewpiano wrote:

Rotel isn't British.  They are Japanese.

Spoilsport.

Timothy was getting up a good head of steam with his 'undeniable' British bias theory.

Yes, Rotel have always been Japanese.

Even during their relationships with other companies (like Rank / Wharfedale / Leak in the 1970s and B&W more recently), neither company ever had any financial stake in Rotel. They have always been wholly owned by the same family in Japan.

Missing the point methinks.  It is not only who owns a company but also where the designing is done and who influences that...now Rotel has a much more non-Japanese influence...methinks

In which case the 'influences' come from Tokyo, South Korea and London. (Their three  R&D offices.)

So if you want to give one of their three R&D offices precedence over Japanese ownership, Chinese (Hong Kong) manufacture and the other two far-eastern R&D centres then yeah, it's British as Fish & Chips!  (Which also originated from almost everywhere than Britain.)

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RE: NAD D 3020 Amplifer

chebby wrote:

Baldrick1 wrote:
Missing the point methinks.  It is not only who owns a company but also where the designing is done and who influences that...now Rotel has a much more non-Japanese influence...methinks

In which case the 'influences' come from Tokyo, South Korea and London. (Their three  R&D offices.)

So if you want to give one of their three R&D offices precedence over Japanese ownership, Chinese (Hong Kong) manufacture and the other two far-eastern R&D centres then yeah, it's British as Fish & Chips!  (Which also originated from almost everywhere than Britain.)

Youthinks?  Wink

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RE: NAD D 3020 Amplifer

What I find a bit strange ;

if you read the first review ( http://www.hifi.nl/artikel/20986/Review-NAD-D-3020-Hybrid-Digital-Amplifier) you think the D3020 is the best thing since sliced bread. 

The what hifi review is not that positive..........they think it's great, but not that great.

It's almost if they do not review the same product  :?

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RE: NAD D 3020 Amplifer

Cypher wrote:

What I find a bit strange ;

if you read the first review ( http://www.hifi.nl/artikel/20986/Review-NAD-D-3020-Hybrid-Digital-Amplifier) you think the D3020 is the best thing since sliced bread. 

The what hifi review is not that positive..........they think it's great, but not that great.

It's almost if they do not review the same product  :?

...and there lies your answer: use reviews as a guideline, then let your own ears make the final choice. 

Hifi is subjective- different strokes for different folks. WHF have always said that, as has just about every other mag review ever. Different reviewers will form different opinions...

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RE: NAD D 3020 Amplifer

WHF gave it 5 stars, as the new Marantx 610. Both were noted for sounding a bit soft. I think the rating reflects the overall value - and WHF didn't think they sounded bad by any stretch, but just manage expectations.

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