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RE: My first Hi-Fi system doesnt sound quite right

Also I the DC6T's are different to conventional speakers. It may just be that they don't favour rock material. If you can try similarly priced alternative speakers will be good..

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I'd be very surprised. The DC4 is a much smaller speaker and it can rock out as well as my old Mission 751s - one of the reasons why I like them so much in fact as they remind me of that speaker.

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I'd be very surprised. The DC4 is a much smaller speaker and it can rock out as well as my old Mission 751s - one of the reasons why I like them so much in fact as they remind me of that speaker.

DC4 has got different units then the DC6 which could be different again. My suspition on the DC6 is that there may be some lack of upper midrange making them sound a bit lazzy on rock material. DC4 has got smaller units which means upper midrange could be well controlled. They will just lack bass. Also the DC4 has different size tweeter too, 19mm as opposed to 25mm.

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Danrv,can I have your opinion about my hifi setup ,you seem to have had to same problem as me in the past

Look under hifi section in the forum,Roksan Kandy K2 by Tobber61

 

regards

Tobbe

 

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Hi

Funnily enough I've have just replied to that post before reading this.

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DC4 has got different units then the DC6 which could be different again. My suspition on the DC6 is that there may be some lack of upper midrange making them sound a bit lazzy on rock material. DC4 has got smaller units which means upper midrange could be well controlled. They will just lack bass. Also the DC4 has different size tweeter too, 19mm as opposed to 25mm.

 

I'm aware of the physical differences in the drivers, however the dual concentric unit is well implmented and has been a staple of Tannoy for some time.  The DC4, incidentally, does not lack bass.  Far from it in fact.  

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 The DC4, incidentally, does not lack bass.  Far from it in fact.  

Well, according to Tanoy user manual the DC6T will go 1 octave lower then DC4 which in herz means 34Hz as oposed to 68Hz. Now this means to me lack of bass. A 4 inch speaker cannot physically give any decent levels of bass output. They are good for midrange though.

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In my room, they give good bass.  Deep, tuneful and controlled.  Now, how you want to interpret what the book says, that's your issue, but for me, the reality is I don't feel shortchanged.  Moreso with the HK amp which really goes deep.

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dumbledore wrote:

DC4 has got different units then the DC6 which could be different again. My suspition on the DC6 is that there may be some lack of upper midrange making them sound a bit lazzy on rock material. DC4 has got smaller units which means upper midrange could be well controlled. They will just lack bass. Also the DC4 has different size tweeter too, 19mm as opposed to 25mm.

 

I'm aware of the physical differences in the drivers, however the dual concentric unit is well implmented and has been a staple of Tannoy for some time.  The DC4, incidentally, does not lack bass.  Far from it in fact.  

What Hi-Fi say they do.
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Yes, I read the review too, did you think I bought blind?

I tired them out in the shop (The Home Cinema Centre in Edinburgh) and since I've brought them home, they've been excellent.  Put them out in a room, maybe a couple of feet from a wall and let them breathe and they'll do fine.  I imagine not in a large room, but mine point across the narrow width of my room, either side of my TV.  

What kind of bass are you expecting?  Lean, none at all?  You tell me what you think you mean by bass and I'll give you mine now, how's that?  Reviews are but a guide and no replacement for hearing for yourself.

My reference recordings are The Yes Album (Starship Trooper), Genesis A Trick of the Tail, Julie Feeney's Pages album, which is voice and strings alone, as well as Zep's Celebration Day.  See also Nouvelle Vague and the Mahler CBSO/Ratlle 14CD boxset from EMI.  Pretty decent range of stuff no?

Bass is not wanting; deep, tuneful, articulate.  If it was, I wouldn't have these speakers, as I don't like a "lean" sound.  I trust that covers it off from my perspective well enough,  I did my reading up alright thanks, I did plenty of listening too.

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They have 4 inch drivers, it isn't possible to get deep bass from 4 inch drivers. I'm glad you like them, but they're bass light, it's physics!

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It's this fundamentally: please don't lecture me about something you've read off a website against what I've got in my living room just now and hear day in, day out.  What works - or doesn't - in the WHF, or any other mag's - demo room doesn't pan out that it will be that way across the board in every room.  Clearly, that's a fallacy and WHF don't suggest it does.  I'm not going to get bogged down in the physics of it all, or the kind of "deep" bass you're talking about, but the bass the DC4 produces is more than enough and very believable.

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I'm not lecturing you. Your speakers may be very nice sounding, I don't know, I've not heard them. But they have 4 inch drivers, and thus, relative to other speakers, with bigger drivers, like the DC6's, will lack bass, as What Hi-Fi state. 

Now perhaps you're not very experienced and haven't heard deep bass? If so you are lacking any kind of meaningful yardstick, and can be forgiven for thinking your speakers are giving you deep bass. I suspect that more experienced people will in turn find them lacking in bass, as they would all speakers with 4 inch drivers.

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I think you're a bit of a troll personally, but let's assume you're not and are just new.

Last system was a Sansui AU-717 with a pair of Mission 752s, many, many demos over the years including Tannoy Westminster Royals, since about 1979, heard and thought Q Acoustics 2050i speakers and think they're brilliant.  Plus countless live gigs in various venues since 1976 and there isn't a speaker out there that does the kind of bass you get in the live environment.

What you forget is that I'm talking to you from experience, mine and a good 30-odd years of it to play with.  I know what I'm talking about thanks.

Welcome to the forum by the way, but you clearly don't know everything and quoting what you think should happen and telling me I'm wrong when I hear what I hear every day doesn't make you i) right or ii) clever.   

The simple answer is of course for you to have a pair of DC4s set up in a small room, with the right kit and find out for yourself.  I imagine that won't be happening however.

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4 Inch drivers cannot reproduce deep bass. It doesn't matter if you've been listening to Hi-Fi for 60 years, they still cannot reproduce deep bass. So you mustn't know what deep bass sounds like. I'm fairly confident that the What Hi-Fi reviewers do!

Goodnight and good luck to you sir.

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