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RE: Most influential recording, and why.

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Surprised Bowie's not been mentioned yet

But which album? There's not many (if any) Bowie recordings that were a brand new style of music, they tended to be (in my opinion) his take on a previous style of music

Fair comment. Haven't listened to a HUGE amount of Bowie (yet), only about 5 or 6 albums and wasn't around when he was in his pomp so it's difficult for me to say, he's normally mentioned as the (or one of) the most influential of all time. Of course it could be argued that Britney Spears was very influential...>)

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Re Bowie there's a couple of very good docu's on iPlayer ATM.

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Not at all,

                Music has influenced people to do a myriad of things, your veiwpoint is very short sighted...............

Sorry, you must have got confused. Your post looks like a response to The Lhc, not to me.

i agree that music can influence all sorts of people in all sorts of ways, and I think my posts make that clear (see my reference to "society at large".) 

Maybe if you're going to accuse someone of being "shortsighted", you should make sure you've read their post properly.:O

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RE: Most influential recording, and why.

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

dangalf wrote:

Surprised Bowie's not been mentioned yet

But which album? There's not many (if any) Bowie recordings that were a brand new style of music, they tended to be (in my opinion) his take on a previous style of music

Fair comment. Haven't listened to a HUGE amount of Bowie (yet), only about 5 or 6 albums and wasn't around when he was in his pomp so it's difficult for me to say, he's normally mentioned as the (or one of) the most influential of all time. Of course it could be argued that Britney Spears was very influential...>)

Bowie is undoubtedly an influential artist, nobody could sensibly argue with that, but the only album which may, and I do mean may be an influence, is "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust..." , though musically, it's still not a game changer is it.

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Sospri wrote:

Not at all,

                Music has influenced people to do a myriad of things, your veiwpoint is very short sighted...............

Sorry, you must have got confused. Your post looks like a response to The Lhc, not to me.

i agree that music can influence all sorts of people in all sorts of ways, and I think my posts make that clear (see my reference to "society at large".) 

Maybe if you're going to accuse someone of being "shortsighted", you should make sure you've read their post properly.:O

I'm also surprised by the number of people who've construed "most influential" as meaning "had most influence on me", which is a very odd and rather self-regarding way of reading the words. "Most influential" surely means influential on other musicians, producers etc etc.

I think not..................

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Sospri wrote:

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Sospri wrote:

matt49 wrote:

I'm also surprised by the number of people who've construed "most influential" as meaning "had most influence on me", which is a very odd and rather self-regarding way of reading the words. "Most influential" surely means influential on other musicians, producers etc etc.

Why does it ?

If it was meant to mean musicians and producers, why did it not say so.................

Well in what way can music be influential on those who have no connection to making music. Take me as an example, I work in IT and my favourite pastime is playing golf, how on earth is The Blues Brothers Briefcase Full of Blues (one of my favourite albums) actually going to be influential on my life? It's an illogical question for people like myself surely?

For people like you, probably.....................

That's a bit half-hearted, come on, have the courage of your convictions, say what you mean!

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dangalf wrote:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

dangalf wrote:

Surprised Bowie's not been mentioned yet

But which album? There's not many (if any) Bowie recordings that were a brand new style of music, they tended to be (in my opinion) his take on a previous style of music

Fair comment. Haven't listened to a HUGE amount of Bowie (yet), only about 5 or 6 albums and wasn't around when he was in his pomp so it's difficult for me to say, he's normally mentioned as the (or one of) the most influential of all time.

In terms of visual style, the creation of the Pop "Star" sure, you've got to give it to him, bit like Jim Morrison created the look of the modern Rock frontman but I'd agree with BBB that a number of his albums were pastiches of established genres.

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Nah.

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Sospri wrote:

matt49 wrote:

Sospri wrote:

Not at all,

                Music has influenced people to do a myriad of things, your veiwpoint is very short sighted...............

Sorry, you must have got confused. Your post looks like a response to The Lhc, not to me.

i agree that music can influence all sorts of people in all sorts of ways, and I think my posts make that clear (see my reference to "society at large".) 

Maybe if you're going to accuse someone of being "shortsighted", you should make sure you've read their post properly.:O

I'm also surprised by the number of people who've construed "most influential" as meaning "had most influence on me", which is a very odd and rather self-regarding way of reading the words. "Most influential" surely means influential on other musicians, producers etc etc.

I think not..................

And now you're quoting my words without using the quote function or putting them in quotation marks. What on earth are you doing?

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Just pointing out what you posted after you denied that you did..............

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Just pointing out what you posted after you denied that you did..............

He's explained the use of the "etc etc" already:

matt49 wrote:

1. you're misquoting me. I didn't say "musicians and producers", I said "musicians, producers, musical tastes, and even society at large", and then I gave a shorthand version of the same: "musicians, producers etc etc". What I was saying is that "influential" is most naturally construed as meaninggenerally influential (as far as music can be influential, that is).

Do try to keep up...

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Sospri wrote:

Just pointing out what you posted after you denied that you did..............

He's explained the use of the "etc etc" already:

matt49 wrote:

1. you're misquoting me. I didn't say "musicians and producers", I said "musicians, producers, musical tastes, and even society at large", and then I gave a shorthand version of the same: "musicians, producers etc etc". What I was saying is that "influential" is most naturally construed as meaninggenerally influential (as far as music can be influential, that is).

Do try to keep up...

Excuse me, who asked your opinion............. Cool

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Just pointing out what you posted after you denied that you did..............

If you're both going to argue, can you argue over something worth arguing about please.

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Yep, I concur with that...............

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The OP mentioned that he already had a shortlist, so I'm guessing that's about 3 artist, and we're supposed to be helping him to add to that list.

He's named Robert Johnson as one of those artist, so I'm just wondering who the other two are.

I know nothing about this guy, but he inspired Bob Dylan, so he must be regarded as highly influential, Woody Guthrie. Am I right?  Smile

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

The OP mentioned that he already had a shortlist, so I'm guessing that's about 3 artist, and we're supposed to be helping him to add to that list.

He's named Robert Johnson as one of those artist, so I'm just wondering who the other two are.

I know nothing about this guy, but he inspired Bob Dylan, so he must be regarded as highly influential, Woody Guthrie. Am I right?  Smile

yes, but wasn't the point of the exercise to suggest individual recordings, not artists, which makes the task more challenging and more interesting?

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