Actually I don't think I did. The point was about the credibility of WHiFi "experts" to judge equipment and I don't think I said they were bad people or dishonest or indeed anything like that. I did question Andrew's assertion that because they do a lot of it that makes them good at it, which is palpably not a sensible argument. I did put in a throwaway line about journalists but that surely isn't a pejorative term, although it obviously touched a nerve. You'd have thought I called them bankers (or whoever the current hate figures are).
The more I think about it the stronger is the analogy with "Top Gear". There is obviously a market for subjective reviews of things and WHiFi seems to be filling that niche. I guess that's fine but I remain concerned that some people might be spending large amounts of money on items which don't actually do anything on the basis of purely subjective opinions. Caveat emptor maybe?
Now people can say what they want about the above, but it's either true, or, WHFs reviews of digital cables are completely fabricated. It can only be one or the other!!!
Unfortunately it is an absolutely undisputable fact, that the WHF review team are very susceptable to the placebo effect, as they imagine differences in picture and sound between various digital cables, when such differences are impossible. This does indicate very strongly that experience does not equate to being very good at something.
Or that you're wrong. And I suspect that's nearer the truth of it all than what you're doing with your little crusade.
The trouble is, you try to act as an authority (yet again), state some stuff you've found on the web, or off Ashley on the AVI forum, come on here spouting off like you know-it-all, and of course anything that doesn't fit your recently found world-view is naturally placebo. But of course it is.
Yet - as I pointed out earlier - my own experience (as pointed out earlier) puts your simple take on the world into touch and I'm rather glad and happy that it did.
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The trouble is, you try to act as an authority (yet again), state some stuff you've found on the web, or off Ashley on the AVI forum, come on here spouting off like you can prove it, and of course anything that doesn't fit your recently found world-view is naturally placebo. But of course it is.
Don't let the door, etc, etc...remarkable though, that for someone with so many better things to do, the amount of time spent slagging off the magazine or audiophiles appears to be your number one endeavour here and on the AVI forum on a frequent basis. What's left?!?
And of course, big fat LOL at the "with respect to Andrew..." having ripped into his colleagues. Never mind the amount of snarky comments about audiophiles and you come on here being whiter than white? Take it somewhere else.
And you accuse me of an ad hominem? Go find a mirror son.
Anyway, here's an appropriate one for you Maxy, cheerio now!
"get some help"..
Yes, you should.
Shame these comments become personal. I recon most wish to know how best to improve their system and how best to spend their money. I think the debate centres around issues which are not easily 'proveable'. Latest WHF test a good example. HiFi racks and their solidity/structure has been shown to have some effect using a reasonable subjective test procedure. Hence, we can have some faith in comments and reviews on these items. With other kit and sadly I need to suggest cables, certainly digital, I have not seen similar articles which suggest their IS any perceivable difference. I think I deserve to know this info before investing a significant amount.
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I understand your point Robin, but my own experience - and others - would suggest there are differences, albeit minor - the magazines do make it clearer now that there is a debate round cables, and any buyer out there I'd expect to have enough suss about them to then go to a dealer who'll permit a try-before-you-buy arrangement. Many do.
What I take issue with, in terms of Max-the-outgoing, is the manner in which he goes about it. Re-registering under amny different guises having been booted several times would suggest that the boy's got a problem (amusingly, it's apparently me needing the help...). This has been going on with him for ages now and it doesn't do the forum here any good. They all start out reasonable, but they end up going down the same tired old route. He's off for now, but no doubt, like Fu Manchu, the forum will hear from him again.
Never seen that before.........
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