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RE: Monitor Audio RX8 - B&W CM9 - KEF R700 - FOCAL836v - TANNOY

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I'm not sure if it's allowed to be mentioned here but the latest copy of Hi-Fi News has a group test of £1000 floorstanders. The Monitor Audio's and Tannoy's both featured amongst others if my memory serves me correctly. I had a skim through in WHSmith's so can't remember 100% might be worth a read for comparisons though.

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RE: Monitor Audio RX8 - B&W CM9 -

Don't forget your personal taste. I find the Tannoy has a too bright ans shout top. The Focal for me is too bright.  And forget the MA RX 8. The RX 6 is the better choice. And yes; there are people who find it too bright. But i think it is also depending on your room. You must listen the speakers in your own room!

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I liked R700 but I do not know how R900 sound.... I might like some more bass.... BUT WOULD I LOOSE IN SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT? like timing etc???

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Hi there i can comment on the Monitor Audio RX6's although you havent shortlisted them,

I have so far only used them as the front LR of a 5.1 channel home cinema setup driven by a Pioneer SC-LX85 but i intend to buy a dedicated integrated amp to hopefully add some warth and more bass depth to the sound (as the Pioneer has a lean character which would be described i think as forward and bright - but not harsh to these ears - great for movies as very exciting!)  This has led to to think they are quite a revealing speaker and i am surprised how nice this setup is to listen too when using a Denon DBP2012ud as the source for CD/SACD as i said just feel it lacks in bass abit for pure 2 channel sound.

Also on the train home tonite i read the latest copy of Hi-Fi news magazine and it was interesting to find that they found the opposite results to what hi-fi when concerning the Bass from the MA RX8.  To semi-quote the review... 'The RX8's are superbly dynamic, punchy and love to play loud.  They really come into their own when fed with pounding synth beats and faster-paced tracks.  With abit of rhythm to grab hold of, the Silver RX8s needed no encouragment to find their feet and boogie.  Even better, this was not all bang and boom, as the bass offered superlative levels of grip, punch and detail, even edging ahead of the Tannoy DC6Tse in this respect.'

I might recommend a demo as i'm very happy with my RX6's and would hope the RX8's to sound similar except with extra bass which i think may not be a bad thing!

Happy huntiing.

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RE: Monitor Audio RX8 - B&W CM9 -

megatombomb wrote:

Hi there i can comment on the Monitor Audio RX6's although you havent shortlisted them,

I have so far only used them as the front LR of a 5.1 channel home cinema setup driven by a Pioneer SC-LX85 but i intend to buy a dedicated integrated amp to hopefully add some warth and more bass depth to the sound (as the Pioneer has a lean character which would be described i think as forward and bright - but not harsh to these ears - great for movies as very exciting!)  This has led to to think they are quite a revealing speaker and i am surprised how nice this setup is to listen too when using a Denon DBP2012ud as the source for CD/SACD as i said just feel it lacks in bass abit for pure 2 channel sound.

Also on the train home tonite i read the latest copy of Hi-Fi news magazine and it was interesting to find that they found the opposite results to what hi-fi when concerning the Bass from the MA RX8.  To semi-quote the review... 'The RX8's are superbly dynamic, punchy and love to play loud.  They really come into their own when fed with pounding synth beats and faster-paced tracks.  With abit of rhythm to grab hold of, the Silver RX8s needed no encouragment to find their feet and boogie.  Even better, this was not all bang and boom, as the bass offered superlative levels of grip, punch and detail, even edging ahead of the Tannoy DC6Tse in this respect.'

I might recommend a demo as i'm very happy with my RX6's and would hope the RX8's to sound similar except with extra bass which i think may not be a bad thing!

Happy huntiing.

 

Thanks. I opt for more bass thts why I am looking the 8's rather than the 6's

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RE: Monitor Audio RX8 - B&W T SE

I do not find the bass overblown just deep and powerful. I don't understand why there is so much negativity around the RX8 mostly concerning the bass. It makes me wonder how many people have listened and how many are jumping on the bandwagon? I'm not saying they're for everyone but if you like extra bass compared to the average speaker they are well worth an audition. If anything I think the weakness is a slightly metallic sounding treble but other than that they are very strong in the midrange and bass.

Trust your own ears and buy the ones that put a smile on your face!

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Hi all,

I recently bought a pair of speakers and David,himself, was there to help(how cool is that). I was almost certain to get the Atc scm11 as I went to the frank harvey in Coventry. I took my own amp with me, a good old MF E10, so first we listened to the ATC and straight away I could tell that my amp was struggling to drive them, 40watts PC was never going to be enough and I wasn't prepared to buy another amp. Pmc db1i was next, they sounded great but I have reservations about small speakers. Then we listen to few tracks using  proc studio 115,  they too sounded good but I felt they weren't able to justify thier price tag, so we moved on to the CM5 and i found what I was looking for but I wanted a different brand this time having previously owned and loved the 601s so we gave Kef r300 a go TBH I didn't find much, if anything, that separated CM5 from R300 except thier size latter being bigger. By than I pretty much made my mind up but we listened to the MA gx 50 anyway , I found them a little too bright for my taste. 

I didn't buy the r300 they might have been a little too big for where I normally position my speakers. I might have been a wee bit biased too because I am used to BW sound.

I am now a happy owner of CM5 thanks to David for his patients and support. 

So the moral of the story is : no matter how much advice you can get from here, it is you who will have to make the final  decision and for that I would recommend you do what I did. Take your own amp and few cds and have a good listen to all the speakers you have mentioned and what better place to go to than Frank Harvey in Coventry. 

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csq2 wrote:

I am also in the middle of upgrading my speakers. I have listened to all of the speakers mentioned above because they were all listed as my top choices.

In order my best to worse:

1. KEF R700 (Tight controlled bass; excellent dynamics; rolled-off treble)

2. Focal 836V (Best for rock IMO; Most involving and musical)

3. B&W CM9 (Loose, weak bass; coarse treble)

4. Tannoy DCT6 SE (Colored mids with an exposed top end)

5. MA RX8 (Looose, weak bass; bright forward treble)

Although R700 is the best sounding, the Focal is more suited towards your listening style as the R700 tends to make drums sound monotone with its less detailed bass.

mm interesting... thanks

This is why I strongly recommend hearing the speakers for yourself.

The CM9's and RX8's references above as "weak bass", is suprisingly against the grain. Reading reviews (and from pesonal experience) bass is these speakers forte. Big bold and very well controlled. Not to mention the cm9's midrange is hypnotic.

Both are fantastic speakers.

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RE: Monitor Audio RX8 - B&W CM9 - KEF R700 - FOCAL836v -

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So the moral of the story is : no matter how much advice you can get from here, it is you who will have to make the final  decision and for that I would recommend you do what I did. Take your own amp and few cds and have a good listen to all the speakers you have mentioned and what better place to go to than Frank Harvey in Coventry. 

Exactamondo!

I've lost count of the amount of times I've demoed (is that a real word?) a piece of equipment based on recomendation and found that not only did I not like the sound, but the sound was completely different to my interpretation of the description.

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RE: RX8 - CM9 - R700 - 836v - DC6T SE

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I am in the process of buying a pair of speakers from the above speaker list...

I would appreciate everyone's opinion..Do some of them stand above others??? Are they all considered mid-range speakers (price & quality wise)??

Room 3mWx4mLx3mH

Mainly rock, pop, modern, acoustic sounds and some classical ones.. I like a bit of extra bass

 

 

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Hi L00k_C

What source component/s, amplification and cabling will you be using please?

Room positioning of the new speakers (distance to walls & corners )?

Is the room lightly or heavily furnished?

In the meantime i feel that you should also consider ATC's SCM40 monitors.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

Musicraft (Derby) - Specialist Hi-Fi, AV & Multimedia dealer

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RE: RX8 - CM9 - R700 - 836v - DC6T SE

MUSICRAFT wrote:

L00k_C wrote:

I am in the process of buying a pair of speakers from the above speaker list...

I would appreciate everyone's opinion..Do some of them stand above others??? Are they all considered mid-range speakers (price & quality wise)??

Room 3mWx4mLx3mH

Mainly rock, pop, modern, acoustic sounds and some classical ones.. I like a bit of extra bass

 

 

Thanks

Hi L00k_C

What source component/s, amplification and cabling will you be using please?

Room positioning of the new speakers (distance to walls & corners )?

Is the room lightly or heavily furnished?

In the meantime i feel that you should also consider ATC's SCM40 monitors.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

 

I am starting my hifi just now so anything goes.........

My room is not heavily furnitured a couple of bookshelves and two sofas and a study......has a window and glass twin door to patio 3.5meters by 4meters. 

I like floorstanders cause I like to hear the beat, the bass to eliviate me most of the times.....However I like to listen to the highs as well..

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RE: RX8 - CM9 - R700 - 836v - DC6T SE

L00k_C wrote:

MUSICRAFT wrote:

L00k_C wrote:

I am in the process of buying a pair of speakers from the above speaker list...

I would appreciate everyone's opinion..Do some of them stand above others??? Are they all considered mid-range speakers (price & quality wise)??

Room 3mWx4mLx3mH

Mainly rock, pop, modern, acoustic sounds and some classical ones.. I like a bit of extra bass

 

 

Thanks

Hi L00k_C

What source component/s, amplification and cabling will you be using please?

Room positioning of the new speakers (distance to walls & corners )?

Is the room lightly or heavily furnished?

In the meantime i feel that you should also consider ATC's SCM40 monitors.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

 

I am starting my hifi just now so anything goes.........

My room is not heavily furnitured a couple of bookshelves and two sofas and a study......has a window and glass twin door to patio 3.5meters by 4meters. 

I like floorstanders cause I like to hear the beat, the bass to eliviate me most of the times.....However I like to listen to the highs as well..

Hi L00k_C

Thanks for your reply.

As with the speakers have you seen or heard any source components and amplifiers that have interested you so far?

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

Musicraft (Derby) - Specialist Hi-Fi, AV & Multimedia dealer

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RE: RX8 - CM9 - R700 - 836v - DC6T SE

Again I have not tested much... I have heard creek 5350 wil KEF ls50 and it was a very nice combination.....

From my point of view I would like to built a hifi (and later HT) system starting from the speakers... That is where I put my main target/importance... After I find the speakers I can again shop around listening/reading about the different 'possible' amp combinations....

 

I am really very impressed with KEF 700 from the above list cause I am tending to like the 'd'appolito' concept.... However I would have liked a bit more bass... ie R900 but then again the price goes much much higher and since I will need a GOOD amp (integrated most likely) then I must 'reorganise/compromise' my list and needs I guess..

 

I am leaning into buing KEF R700 and look into amps like ARCAM, Creek ..... and any other suggestions you might have.... Blum 3

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RE: Monitor Audio RX8 - B&W CM9 - KEF R700 - FOCAL836v

A few months back I compared the Monitor Audios and the Focals, driven by an Exposure CD/Amp combination and the Focal was the hands-down winner.  The Monitor Audios had a tiny bit more wallop in the bass, but this seemed to come at the price of a lifeless treble. On a good classical recording of Magdalena Kozena singing Mozart the MAs came across as dull and stilted, whereas the Focals brought her voice to life quite beautifully. I wouldn't characterise the treble as 'bright.' I ended up buying Focal 714Vs as the 836 would simply have been too large for my room, but they were lovely speakers.

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