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Do they have to be PAT tested?

 

 

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Alec wrote:

MattSPL wrote:

If you don't believe mains cables work, or won't even try them, that's your loss.

You spelt that wrong. You meant s.a.v.i.n.g.

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Don't you think that this sorry tail has been milked enough. The OP must be on the horns of a dilemma; and the best way for him to get prhoof, is to listen for himself. Anything else is a mooot point......so cut the bull  :silenced:  :shifty:

 

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relocated wrote:

andyjm wrote:

Anyone searching for an example of expectation bias need look no further than this thread.  

In a past life I designed audio recording equipment for a well known national broadcaster.  At no stage did we entertain any cable tomfoolery, except to specify current carrying capability for mains cables, and basic LCR parameters for signal and speaker leads.

In spite of this, we still managed to build studios which arguably produced some of the best recordings of the 20th century. Just remarkable how we managed to get by without the benefit of modern marketing.....     

 

Absolutely, there was someone earlier that seemed to think paying £80 for 2 bottles of wine was an excellent way of spending that sum.  Now that really is 'expectation bias'.   :O

Don't knock the oenophiles; we really do know what we're talking about (and can prove it through blind tastings).

Life's too short to listen to bad hifi; life's too short to drink bad wine.

Absolutely correct hic!

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It's interesting that most people would accept that optical illusions occur but some people find aural illusions impossible to accept - "I've heard it so it must be true".

Chris

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Covenanter wrote:

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If you don't believe mains cables work, or won't even try them, that's your loss.

wireworlds cables are unlike other power cables in design. They have been designed to act as a filter, much like a passive mains filter in an extension block. Mains electricity operates at 50/60hz, the wireworld cables have been made to filter out noise in this frequency range. So, although wireworld are unique in their design, there's your scientific explanation. 

Is this an April Fool post?  If not I assume you meant they are designed to filter out noise outside this frequency range, if not they would filter out the power itself.  Laughing

However, as I've pointed out endlessly, there will be a bloody great electrolytic capacitor in your equipment's power supply that will filter out any high frequency noise that gets to it so, whilst I'm in favour of having the cleanest possible power coming in, it's hard to see that removing something in a cable, assuming it works, that will be removed a couple of inches later in any case is going to make any difference.

Chris

PS Interesting that their website declines to say what "scientific principles" make the cables work.

 

Laughing Yes sorry, i meant they filter out all other frequencies. But this was not an April fools by the way Smile

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If you really want the truth, check this Audio Myths workshop:

http://youtu.be/BYTlN6wjcvQ

Some extremely interesting articles:

http://idc1966.blogspot.co.uk/

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I use the wireworld sliver cable from my mains coniditioner to my amp.. I have tried so many but none IMHO are anywere near as good. It does not kill dynamics, actually increases it. No sign of brightness at all... expensive.. but wireworld mains cables work..

 

hang on, you already have a mains conitioner, yet still use a wireworld mains cable?  Does that mean your mains conditioner is utter bobbins that you need the cable to make it sound better?  If you have a half decent mains conditioner, then you shouldn't need the cable as tehre would be nothing for the cable to actually do.

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How much do the  Mains conditioner: Isol 8 cost?

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CnoEvil wrote:

Don't you think that this sorry tail has been milked enough. The OP must be on the horns of a dilemma; and the best way for him to get prhoof, is to listen for himself. Anything else is a mooot point......so cut the bull  :silenced:  :shifty:

 

 

Excellent, I think you may have trumped the previous offerings.   :clap:

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Absolutely, there was someone earlier that seemed to think paying £80 for 2 bottles of wine was an excellent way of spending that sum.  Now that really is 'expectation bias'.    Shock

 

 

Don't knock the oenophiles; we really do know what we're talking about (and can prove it through blind tastings).

Life's too short to listen to bad hifi; life's too short to drink bad wine.

                                                                   ----------------------------------------

I rather suspect[as has been proved time and time again] that there are significantly more people who need the price of the bottle to fully appreciate wine complexity.  There is absolutely no need to pay £40 a pop to get excellent wine and there are plenty that I wouldn't give tuppence for.

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cheeseboy wrote:

Native_bon wrote:

+1

I use the wireworld sliver cable from my mains coniditioner to my amp.. I have tried so many but none IMHO are anywere near as good. It does not kill dynamics, actually increases it. No sign of brightness at all... expensive.. but wireworld mains cables work..

 

hang on, you already have a mains conitioner, yet still use a wireworld mains cable?  Does that mean your mains conditioner is utter bobbins that you need the cable to make it sound better?  If you have a half decent mains conditioner, then you shouldn't need the cable as tehre would be nothing for the cable to actually do.

Yes I do.. Cause it even sounds better!!... If i made add i have also used mains cables than made my system sound bad to my ears.. I mean very bad. Thin & bright sounding.

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Native_bon wrote:

 

hang on, you already have a mains conitioner, yet still use a wireworld mains cable?  Does that mean your mains conditioner is utter bobbins that you need the cable to make it sound better?  If you have a half decent mains conditioner, then you shouldn't need the cable as tehre would be nothing for the cable to actually do.

Yes I do.. Cause it even sounds better!!... If i made add i have also used mains cables than made my system sound bad to my ears.. I mean very bad. Thin & bright sounding.

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I'd be sending that mains conditioner back if I were you, sounds like it's doing sod all.

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Wink

cheeseboy wrote:

Native_bon wrote:

 

hang on, you already have a mains conitioner, yet still use a wireworld mains cable?  Does that mean your mains conditioner is utter bobbins that you need the cable to make it sound better?  If you have a half decent mains conditioner, then you shouldn't need the cable as tehre would be nothing for the cable to actually do.

Yes I do.. Cause it even sounds better!!... If i made add i have also used mains cables than made my system sound bad to my ears.. I mean very bad. Thin & bright sounding.

 

I'd be sending that mains conditioner back if I were you, sounds like it's doing sod all.

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Its my money dude. Wink

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relocated wrote:

Absolutely, there was someone earlier that seemed to think paying £80 for 2 bottles of wine was an excellent way of spending that sum.  Now that really is 'expectation bias'.    Shock

 

 

Don't knock the oenophiles; we really do know what we're talking about (and can prove it through blind tastings).

Life's too short to listen to bad hifi; life's too short to drink bad wine.

                                                                   ----------------------------------------

I rather suspect[as has been proved time and time again] that there are significantly more people who need the price of the bottle to fully appreciate wine complexity.  There is absolutely no need to pay £40 a pop to get excellent wine and there are plenty that I wouldn't give tuppence for.

It's strayed a long way off topic but whilst you can indeed get excellent wine for less than £40 a bottle, if you want a bottle of Premier Cru Burgundy from a good year it's going to cost you about that or more and if you can't taste the difference between that and say a good New Zealand Pinot Noir at £15 a bottle then you need new taste buds.

Chris

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