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That Tacima block strangled the dynamics on my amp and cd player. I prefer to leave it unplugged. However playing my PS2 and TV through it cleaned up the picture quality substantially

Amazing.

PS, what nonsense.

The Tacima strangled the sound from my amp; and others on here have found similar.......cheap conditioners can effect high current amps imo.

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Amazon have a great returns policy, try one and see for yourself OP

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CnoEvil wrote:

Reggie Mental wrote:

Gibs_MK wrote:

That Tacima block strangled the dynamics on my amp and cd player. I prefer to leave it unplugged. However playing my PS2 and TV through it cleaned up the picture quality substantially

Amazing.

PS, what nonsense.

The Tacima strangled the sound from my amp; and others on here have found similar.......cheap conditioners can effect high current amps imo.

 

I don't know where these peculiar ideas originate, but let me assure you that is not the case. In order for the Tacima to do that it would need to cause a significant voltage drop in the circuit and then it would catch fire.

 

 

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Reggie Mental wrote:

I don't know where these peculiar ideas originate, but let me assure you that is not the case. In order for the Tacima to do that it would need to cause a significant voltage drop in the circuit and then it would catch fire.

I heard restricted dynamics with my amp plugged into the Tacima, which was a pity, because i really wanted a cheap solution.

I now don't believe conditioning can be done cheaply and well, especially with power hungry kit.........probably for the reasons described by Bryston here: http://www.audiorevelation.com/cre/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=175&products_id=1308&osCsid=r2ho7044g1i68047jp44ors5f5

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Why WOULD a mains cable matter ?

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Why WOULD a mains cable matter ?

If it's Mains Cable Extensions you are talking about, the following factors "may" effect performance:

- Whether it's star wired / star earthed or Daisy Chained.

- EMI / RFI rejection

- Quality of connectors / sockets

- How (if) surge protection is implemented

-  How well (if) conditioning / active circuitry is designed

- Quality of conductor

On the other hand, it may all be snake oil to fool the gullible.   :grin:

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I use the Tacima CS929 for my pre and CD player only, i find if i plug my power amp in it strangles the sound and dynamics, so so that goes straight into the wall socket.

How much difference it will make depends how dirty your mains are in the first place.

 

To those asking why it would make a difference it's not the cable it's the built in filter that counts.... :wall:

 

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The only thing a passive power conditioner (Surge Protector) can do is remove spikes and pulses and thus help smooth the power supply that reaches the connected equipment; true power conditioning can only be done with an active system which will be more expensive.

Check the rating on the power strip and make sure you don’t exceed it. (Just because it has six 13amp sockets on it doesn’t mean you can use six full 13 amp devices simultaneously)

Hope this helps

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According to WHF review of theTacima block;

"We've said it before, and by heaven we're going to say it again. Don't expect to get the very best out of the lovely, expensive hi-fi equipment you've bought if you don't pay equal attention to the quality of the mains supply it has to work with. And this product, Tacima's fine-value CS929, perfectly illustrates the benefits even a modest outlay can achieve.

This six-way mains conditioner delivers truly dramatic audio gains. Comparing its performance to the ‘unconditioned' sound, our reference CD/amp system enjoys greater separation and focus of sound, and greater clarity and confidence in the midrange. Bass is burlier and better integrated, too.

In a nutshell? It really does work, and is well worth the week's beer money it costs. This product really is a no-brainer."

Surely they know what they're talking about? ROFL

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Musicnonstop wrote:

I use the Tacima CS929 for my pre and CD player only, i find if i plug my power amp in it strangles the sound and dynamics, so so that goes straight into the wall socket.

How much difference it will make depends how dirty your mains are in the first place.

 

To those asking why it would make a difference it's not the cable it's the built in filter that counts.... :wall:

 

 

Providing the filter is low resistance it will make no difference, if it wasn't it would have to dissipate any power drop as heat and catch fire, as I explained earlier.

 

That's not to say it wouldn't filter mains interference like clicks and pops. It just can't affect sound quality per se.

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whiskywheels wrote:

According to WHF review of theTacima block;

"We've said it before, and by heaven we're going to say it again. Don't expect to get the very best out of the lovely, expensive hi-fi equipment you've bought if you don't pay equal attention to the quality of the mains supply it has to work with. And this product, Tacima's fine-value CS929, perfectly illustrates the benefits even a modest outlay can achieve.

This six-way mains conditioner delivers truly dramatic audio gains. Comparing its performance to the ‘unconditioned' sound, our reference CD/amp system enjoys greater separation and focus of sound, and greater clarity and confidence in the midrange. Bass is burlier and better integrated, too.

In a nutshell? It really does work, and is well worth the week's beer money it costs. This product really is a no-brainer."

Surely they know what they're talking about? ROFL

It's why I don't rely on their reviews alone.

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Reggie Mental wrote:

I don't know where these peculiar ideas originate, but let me assure you that is not the case. In order for the Tacima to do that it would need to cause a significant voltage drop in the circuit and then it would catch fire.

I heard restricted dynamics with my amp plugged into the Tacima, which was a pity, because i really wanted a cheap solution.

I now don't believe conditioning can be done cheaply and well, especially with power hungry kit.........probably for the reasons described by Bryston here: http://www.audiorevelation.com/cre/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=175&products_id=1308&osCsid=r2ho7044g1i68047jp44ors5f5

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 Generally our mains quallty is pretty good, You worry too much and then imagine all sorts.

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CnoEvil wrote:

Alantiggger wrote:

Why WOULD a mains cable matter ?

If it's Mains Cable Extensions you are talking about, the following factors "may" effect performance:

- Whether it's star wired / star earthed or Daisy Chained.

- EMI / RFI rejection

- Quality of connectors / sockets

- How (if) surge protection is implemented

-  How well (if) conditioning / active circuitry is designed

- Quality of conductor

On the other hand, it may all be snake oil to fool the gullible.   :grin:

 

A quality socket with a surge limiter is a good idea anyway.

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Reggie Mental wrote:

Generally our mains quallty is pretty good, You worry too much and then imagine all sorts.

 

I don't worry at all....and as for my imagination...........  :twisted:

I have tried a variety of conditioners, extention blocks, power regenerators and balanced mains transformers........some improved the sound, some made no difference and some made things sound worse.

I have generally found that balanced mains transformers work best.

ATM Everything is plugged directly into the wall. 

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I have been furtling around in the cupboard under the stairs and found my old Tacima CS929 that I used a long time ago (5 years) with an Arcam Solo-Mini system.

I thought I might have thrown it away, or given it to a friend, but decided to be sure and had a look in my hi-fi 'stash' cupboard.

So I might give it another go with my current system when I spring-clean the living room this week.

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