An audiophile Jehovas witness.
Or just 'audiophile'?
You need to point that at yourself - I have challenged you already just you me and some cables anywhere - I know you will eat those words. I have no fear of losing what so ever, you may make the excuse its your 'sonic illusion' and any other excuse supposidly proven by science you may care to make. But straight up I challenge you........
I'm taking everything thats been said to date and still I dare you....sadly not this sunday as there is a Grand Prix on..... but what do you say?
...and I challenged you to listen to the audio illusions. No need to go anywhere, just listen to them and tell me if your ears were fooled, yet you don't seem to have done that. wonder why?
i'd love to take you up on your offer, but I don't live in the uk...
In one of the previous interconnects debate I did the test - was that the one that included slightly differing beats and you had to decide if they were the same I did one of them. But considering I understand the whole idea of music reproduction is the creation of an illusions it really has no bearing on this debate - simply because we are not trying to change anything all we are doing is trying to determine if cables DO make a difference.
The rest is another debate for another day - but respect, you don't live in the UK is probably the best reason not to accept this challenge - cause I won't be providing accomodation nor food......
ok, here they are again http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/audio-designline-blog/4033473/Audio-illusions-that-will-fool-your-ear-and-brain
the point being that you can't trust your ears to give you an accurate reading, therefore the test you propose is pretty useless and doesn't actually prove anything I'm afraid - it's just people in a room listening to music and changing cables, nothing more, nothing less. That's why nobody is interested in taking you up on your offer.
If you are seriously wanting to prove that there is a difference between cables, you're going to have to do a double blind test or something similar, as this thread has been talking about for ages, yet you can't seem to grasp. Now, if you want to set that up, I'm sure you'll have takers.
Sadly I'll miss the Grand Prix too (about time McLaren got their act together) - I'll be in Sweden working on a well known "Song Contest"
Where are you?
couldn't resist this, sorry... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a86KvYjyIbg
wow.... this is what I don't get with some of you guys, thats the same test - stereo is an illusion in it self - creating a soundstage with real depth, height and width with singers and instruments placed in various positions, from 2 speakers in a fixed position. how does that relate to this debate.
If I changed my earphones would be closer to what we are trying to prove. i.e do we hear sonic differences in this tests, ..... not if the test/illusions itself changed
So were does this 'your ears can be fooled' come from I don't get it. We all know they can be fooled but we also can hear if something changes when we hear it . its a simple case of listen, nothing up my sleeves, nothing hidden in my coat.
ok I'm out, you clearly have no idea what we are talking about. I'll leave it up to somebody else to say the same thing over and over again and you can say the same things back to them over and over again.
Mac mini > AVI ADM9Ts
Go!.... and you guys talk about head in sand to me - seriously tell me what relavence that test has with listening to a a piece of music played on a single system were the only thing changed is the interconnects, nothing else - how will your ears be fooled ....
I told you Overdose... run their bare arms through an open flame.......
Lol..... thats another debate for another day...... I know through my amp/speaker/cd player the vocals are above the height of the speakers and alot of treble info even though my speakers are inverted - tweeter below mid driver......another day.
No really. Not height.
Stereo recordings are carried out in one plane only. To reproduce a vertical plane you would need recording and playback in two planes, ie microphones and speakers above and below each other.
A bit like surround sound but not.
I bowed out on this guy a while ago, simply does not have the faintest idea about what is being discussed.
The U-Tube clip is amusing though, i have had a few dems go like that in my time......
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,
And we remember why we came.
A bit like surround sound but not.
lol....o.k, this we can disagree on - I do have my speakers leaning back, front spikes on a pair of jenga blocks. but I'd have to invite you round to hear my set in action to prove this - that I won't do....
lol....o.k, this we can disagree on .....
I see there's a common theme here.
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