So true about scale and perceived "live" sound. This is the ultimate wrestling match,hence why I sorted diverted away from the DB1is. In so many areas fantastic but that touch of bass missing just doesn't make them feel right.
I await the next Linn, Rega, Kef instalment.
I suspect he caught the bug when there.
As we left, he was talking about what it would take to turn it into 5 channels in the future.
I told him to take it slowly and in stages ( )
- Live with what he eventually bought long enough to form a more accurate opinion as to what he ultimately wanted.
- Add a sub at a later date, if necessary.
- If still curious about the AV experience, an AV amp (with pre-outs) could be added (along with extra speakers)......and the DSM would cope with front L&R.
.....and the splendid thing is, it won't cost me a penny.
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Thanks for the insight mate.
Was there any thought to a separate amp at all? Or was all in one simplicity part of the brief?
If the budget was there for the MDSM, wouldn't it be worth trying say the Sneaky DS running through a Brio for example? Or something similar? M1 / M3?
As good as the Sneaky is I don't think that it's amp section is ever going to stack up against any serious competition.
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Have you listened to the Sneaky amp?
The new Sneaky DSM has had a consideable amp upgrade, but if it doesn't cut the mustard, he will likely go for the MDSM.......It's the versatility of the connectivity that appeals. ie. there are very few solutions which give HDMI connections, outside an AV amp.
No I haven't listened to the Sneaky amp, so you're right I shouldn't pass judgement. I will get the chance sometime in the near future when my friend & I go to the place where I bought my Akurate from.
Must say that I was very much leaning towards a separate integrated / streamer solution, perhaps I should reconsider.
The DSM range is certainly advantageous with it various connectivity options. TBH I'm not sure why you would want a HDMI input? What use would it be?
As I mentioned in my previous post, the Sneaky amp is better than it has any right to be, given it's almost an afterthought.
Normally I would advise going for a separate amp and streamer in order to give flexibility.
My friend wants to plug his Skybox and Blu-ray player etc into the MDSM, so as to make use of it's upgraded Dac quality........he is not ready to go for the full 5 channel expense at this stage, but is wanting to maximize his 2 channel and TV watching experience.
He can add a sub at any stage; and the DSMs can be connected to an AV amp to cover L&R down the road as well.
Fair enough, seems reasonable. Would probably be worth checking out the difference in sound between the MDSM & a comparitively priced AV. Most around that price point should have streaming / ipad interface of some sort.
if he's planning on using it for movies/TV then I would have thought a centre speaker would be the most important addition.
Either way he looks like he's being well advised & should end up with a nice little system.
How good is this hobby? It's almost as enjoyable spending other peoples money as your own.& you don't have to cop grief from the commander in chief.
Not necessarily.......I have had grief from someone else's commander in chief.
Isn't that the part when you beat a stategic withdrawl whilst telling your mate to man up & tell her who's the boss?
No.......it's when you have to send them a bottle of champagne to return the status quo.
Well, I spent the day doing what I love to do (sad git that I am) ie. pottering around one of my local dealers, listening to good music on a variety of different stuff, while drinking coffee and scoffing buns.......
Mind and watch the weight :)
Lounge : Samsung PS51E6500, Sony BDP S790, Virgin media XL, Onkyo TX-SR508,
Tannoy Arena 5.1 with stands.(http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-and-av-speakers/tannoy-arena-96472/review)
Bed : Panasonic PX70 and a Sony BDP-370 Blu ray Player.
So far :)
& some soothing musci to play on HER fine new system
I'm a pretty scrawny f e c k e r, so it's OK.
I'll put it on a memory stick, so it would be easier shove up.............
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