And the pleasures of mains cables are but imaginary! My wine is real and was delicious and there was no self-delusion in it.
Both pleasures are subjective. There are people who see no benefit to wine, strange as it may seem....though it's the people who have never tasted it, who say it's pointless and a waste of money, that get me.
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There are people who see no benefit to wine, strange as it may seem....though it's the people who have never tasted it, who say it's pointless and a waste of money, that get me.
It's not strange.
I drink about 8 bottles of golden ale per year (one very occasionally with a Sunday roast or a nice stew).
I can't stand the taste of wine (or the effect of it on my digestion afterwards) or being drunk.
It's a waste of money to me because it's not enjoyable, to me.
I haven't got drunk or had a hangover for just under 28 years. (Just before my wife knew she was pregnant with our eldest.) I had a morbid fear that the kids - being kids - would suddenly need me (out-of-the-blue) in some night-time emergency and I'd be unable to respond 100 percent to the situation.
Now they are grown-up but it's ingrained in me and I just have the odd glass a few times a year for a treat.
(I am also glad that amongst their memories there will be none of me drunk.)
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Reject both RFI and EMI?
RFI stands for Radio Frequency Interference and EMI stands for ElectroMagnetic Interference.
Radio frequencies ares just part of the ElectroMagnetic spectrum. They're part of the same thing.
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Standard sockets already have an exellent connection that allows the current to flow freely without adding any extra risistance. How exactly do you think that this can be improved can be improved?
Draining power from each other?
How much current do you think hifi equipment needs? Unless your amplifiers are producing several kilowatts of power standard sockets are more than capable of providing all the power that your hifi could possibly need.
Standard mains sockets provide all the power that kettles, microwaves, power tools and lawnmowers need. Do you think that HiFi equipment would need more power than any of these?
You say that it can reject both RFI and EMI?
If you want a detailed answer, you would be better speaking to the likes of John Carrick (Atlas) or Darren (Clearer Audio)...I'll have a go, but don't take it as gospel....and I'm not getting into a long argument / debate over it.
Things that reject EMI and RFI:
- A metal housing
- Braiding of wiring
- Isolation of sockets prevents interaction between them
- Shielded cables using a metal foil which shunt electromagnetic energy to the ground.
- Low pass filtering
- Passive filtering
Standard mains copper cables do have a high purity of copper. Even if they're only 99.9% pure copper it doesn't matter that they're not perfect because they're a very thick gauge so that they'll have a low enough resistance for it to be irrelevant.
IME. Cheap sockets have cheap connectors.......but don't take my word for it, and try it out.
As I said, I'm not getting sucked into this.
I'm sorry Cno. I don't mean to be pedantic or rude but some of your comments show that you don't really understand what's involved regarding how electric cables actually work. What your comments are doing is scaremongering unnecessarily.
For the record I do agree that electonics can sometimes be effected by EMI where shielding and/or filtering would help. But it's worth pointing that for most people in most circumstances the levels of EMI are going to be far below the levels where it would make any noticable difference.
IME. Cheap sockets have cheap connectors
Cheap yes. But they will still function perfectly so long as they have a good contact and don't add any extra resistance.
For the record I do agree that electonics can sometimes be effected by EMI where shielding and/or filtering would help. But it's worth pointing that for most people in most circumstances the levels of EMI are going to be far below the levels where it can make any noticable difference.
I'm not trying to do anything of the sort.
It's quite simple......I try something, and pass on what I hear. People can then try for themselves, and they will either agree, or disagree. Simples..
What you do is read up on one side of the argument, and that becomes "fact". It then becomes a substitute for listening.
On that note, I'm out......because you are not going to talk me out of what I can hear, and I'm not going to convince you that what you've read isn't the whole truth.
So my friend, I bid you goodnight.
...but if we're talking Guinness, Poitín or Black Bush, that's different.
But none of these things do anything about noise already in the cable I believe. As for "Shielded cables using a metal foil which shunt electromagnetic energy to the ground." that's just hocus pocus. Mains electricity is "electromagnetic energy" so does it shunt that to the ground too? And if you are talking about high frequency noise perhaps you could explain how that would get past the rather huge capacitor in the power supply of whatever piece of kit we are talking about? (I did a whole year of a course during my first degree studing electromagnetism and whilst that was a few years ago I don't think the woofle dust has got into physics since then. I can tell you as a matter of fact that this is baloney.)
To be frank I don't think you can explain any of these things and your "I'm not getting sucked into this" is just an excuse for not having any answers. I'm sorry to be confrontational but hey ho there you go!
PS The wine was rather good, much better that the first bottle I had a year ago, so I think it has aged well. It is indeed a transitory pleasure but at least it's a real one.
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But what I said IS fact. It's not one side of an 'argument' as you put it. Power cables aren't complicated or magic there are just some very simple and basic scientific principles involved regarding current and resistance.
As I said I don't mean to be rude but you clearly don't understand these basic scientific principles involved with how electric cables work and your comments may confuse people into thinking that standard copper cables can't do their job properly when they do.
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