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How many got scamed proves nothing. Quarter of the population in the US thinks the sun revolves arround the earth, even worse in the European Union with 34%. Odds are some of them are memebers of this forum.

Scary. 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

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ellisdj wrote:

A thread on Jplay - I dont need to.  I like it, I think its great - I would never had got into pc audio had I never heard it.

I wouldnt dream of not using it now either - not saying other soltions are not good - I think JPlay is great.  Thats all that matters to me.

I am not alone in thinking it either - its getting bigger all the time.  I dont think its a scam hence why 99 eruos gets you a lfietime of upgrades - doesnt sound like a scam to me.  99 euros per upgrade sounds more like other companies.

I have suugested others try it for free and put the effort into setting it up - because there is a bit of learning the correct settings needed - especially with Ultrastream which is the game changer for me with JPlay - if it doesnt work for them they have lost nothing

My opinion will never be changed on it by what some else thinks as I have heard it myself and made my own mind up

I see from the JPLAY site, that one of the features is to play music from memory, not from disk, halting disk access during playback. If this is the case, what benefit is the 'JCAT Sata' cable that you have in your signature?

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Go on the jplay forum and read the thread on it.

I think halting disc access is a certain playback mode, jplay mini or hibernate mode, i might be wrong.

I dont use it like that - i use it through jriver and then use j remote on the ipad to control my library

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Jplay is a Hoax

JRiver recommends that you uninstall Jplay. It adds a layer of sound processing that can degrade sound quality, performance, and stability.

You will achieve the best sound quality with JRiver alone.

The author of the foobar player agrees.

For his computeraudiophile.com blog, Mitchco tested JRiver Media Center and Jplay. Both produce measurably identical bitperfect output.

Archimago also found no benefit.

For a more detailed discussion, please visit the HydrogenAudio Forum.

To protect its customers, JRiver will remove forum posts that discuss Jplay. JRiver will not provide support for Media Center if Jplay is used.

http://www.jriver.com/jplay.html

 

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foobar2000 troubleshooter

The following components found on your system are known to be problematic and should be either uninstalled or updated to their latest versions:

foo_jplay.dll : JPLAY

Reason: "Audiophile" scam 

http://help.foobar2000.org/troubleshooter/components/482398a390566e59

 

 

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Yep all jplay users know that - but there was talk that jriver was trying to implement what jplay does into the new mc19

Only rumour mill.

None of that makes a difference to me - i own both and i use jplay. 

Before i knew anything about pc audio my cousin used jriver - sounded rough tbh.

He then got jplay on demo knowing nothing with no.bias and we listened - it was a noticeable improvement not setup at all well, that proved it to me there and then and nothing has changed

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Your cousin eh? 

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andyjm wrote:

 

I see from the JPLAY site, that one of the features is to play music from memory, not from disk, halting disk access during playback. If this is the case, what benefit is the 'JCAT Sata' cable that you have in your signature?

 

It's ok, I've already asked and there was no reply....

Ellis also said he would put his money where his mouth was in that he belives that sata cables make a difference, so I asked him to copy a file to an external hard drive, then use audio diff and let us know the outcome of the copied file and the none copied file - after all, if sata cables made the difference then this would prove it as his belief is that sata cables make a difference at every point in the chain.

The reply was "come to my house and listen"....

So in short, you're not going to get anywhere with this as he won't put his money where his mouth is and when somebody offered to go to his house to do some listening/testing the backpeddling started pretty fast with the whole I don't want a stranger in my house.... :?

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No doubt Jplay's bit perfect output destroys Jriver's bit perfect output.

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Lol cheeseboy i have actially done the opposite contacted 2 forum members on avf with no reply so far

 

I will offer the same to you but i have made it clear i am not having someone pull my system about just like i wouldnt do that to yours.

 

Its all about how it sounds - i have said i would send you 2 files but there is no way of monitoring the honesty of your response

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ellisdj wrote:

Lol cheeseboy i have actially done the opposite contacted 2 forum members on avf with no reply so far

avf has nothing to do with whf...

ellisdj wrote:

I will offer the same to you but i have made it clear i am not having someone pull my system about just like i wouldnt do that to yours.

that's fair enough, but it does seem odd you want to prove stuff until somebody says prove it.

ellisdj wrote:

Its all about how it sounds - i have said i would send you 2 files but there is no way of monitoring the honesty of your response

 

I keep telling you, you don't need to send me the files.  I've told you to use the audio diff software and try for yourself.  It would take about 5 minutes and then you can post the results back here.  Obviously there is no way of monitoring the honesty of your response either, but to be honest, it's not about proving it to me, it's about having a look yourself.  You're constantly touting about how you like to play and tweak with all the stuff, well I've just given you the way you can test yourself to see if that expensive sata cable of yours is acutally making a real world difference.  Are you too scared to try?

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You can pm on avf their whf forum members BB and Lindsayt

 

I would do your test but that wouldnt change my mind - because of what i have heard - were not talking a tiny 1% difference that requires golden ears. Proper tangible if thats the right word.differences

 

Are you on avf i will pm.you.the same

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I would also like to point out i have not been singing the praises of my.sata cable in this thread - i was questioned on / scrutinised for having it in my sig.

But as thats been the case i have been honest with my thoughts.  I would say what it did to the sound but it would be pointless why saying come hear. 

There is nowhere to hear a audio pc like this except in peoples homes or maybe in computer audio design demo at shows - think he uses a laptop though

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ellisdj wrote:

I would do your test but that wouldnt change my mind - because of what i have heard - were not talking a tiny 1% difference that requires golden ears. Proper tangible if thats the right word.differences

 

sorry but it's got to the point where I can say you're full of crap.

Seriously dude, take a step back from the foo and smell the coffee and just look at what you've said.   I tell you how to test to see if the sata cable is making any difference, very easily and you don't want to do it and even if it came back saying that if there was no difference you wouldn't change your mind?? ROFL   :help:

This is the kind of behaviour I would expect from somebody in a cult... :O

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He is just doing his job, creating google chatter, spreading reasonable doubt, recommending, promo and sending people to the slaughterhouse... kahmm I mean JPlay forum and those other stuff he mentions and links.

There was another one as backup with long paragraphs, but it could be the same guy with two accounts. Usually shills do this in groups of at least two.

Just ask his cousin. Smile

 

(of course I could be completely wrong)

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Lol you 2 crack me up - of course thats what i am doing Smile thats hilarious

Cheeseboy offer is open mate meet up local for a coffee then if your not an axe murderer or i am not you can come listen

 

A day out for you and a chance to.see and hear another system, i love hearing other systems shows what you got right and what you got wrong

I will come listen to yours first if you want??

 

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