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Isolatton Products - what exists?
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I am looking into isolating a few of my system components.

 

Not interested in little rubber balls of £15 - looking at proper solutions - I already know of stillpoints and black ravioli just seeing what else exists?

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RE: Isolatton Products - what exists?

i thought your racks had isolation units built in to them?

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to a certain degree yes - you can pay extra for further isolation plinths.

This is for products not on the rack - but I will be trying the rack based products to see if there is futher benefit to be had

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ellisdj wrote:

I am looking into isolating a few of my system components.

 

Not interested in little rubber balls of £15 - looking at proper solutions - I already know of stillpoints and black ravioli just seeing what else exists?

 

What turntable do you have and what problem?

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ellisdj wrote:

to a certain degree yes - you can pay extra for further isolation plinths.

This is for products not on the rack - but I will be trying the rack based products to see if there is futher benefit to be had

 

fair enough.

 

Always wondered (semi seriously) if just lobbing stuff in a hammock wouldn't be the best idea...

Before anybody thinks about it, I'm just off to tradmark the audiophile hammock range Smile

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Its not for a turntable - its for other products -

- External Linear Power Supply - Main product (on mdf shelf)

- Isotek Titan (on mdf shelf)

- Audio PC (On rack)

- Meridan Processor (on rack)

 

These are what I plan tottest on.  My Sub puts a lot and its to try and control this as much as is possible.

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I can confirm that the pc will make no difference....  If you don't believe me play some music, pick the bugger up and give it a move.  I guarantee it won't change the sound one bit.

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We'll see, there is some slight vibrations on the case so I think I can improve on this also

most peoples computers are far from setup anywhere near optimally to get full sound quality anyway - its mostly and generally pure noise coming off a standard pc so differences from isolation will be lost.  Thats not the case with my audio pc I have spent a lot of ££ and time into it, its far from ordinary

The streacom case I am using has very low profile rubber feet that are as good as uselsss for isolation.

 

Its the Linear Power Supply powring part of the audio Pc thats my point of initial interest - placing the LPSU ontop of a thick slab of ploystyrene has made a positive difference - therefore a  properly designed solution should benefit far greater

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If there's no moving parts then isolation is pointless. But if you do have a sack of cash you'd like to dispose of, I can recommend various charities.

 

Smile

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ReValveiT wrote:

If there's no moving parts then isolation is pointless. But if you do have a sack of cash you'd like to dispose of, I'd can recommend various charities.

 

Smile

Thats not true either, far from it in fact - this thread is not intended for debate on the subject I am just interested in knowing what products exist on the market I dont already know of


Heres some light reading on the subject

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I would recommend AVI active isolation products. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Herzan-MOD-1XL-AVI-100XL-L-Dynamic-Vibration-Isolation-System-Table-Platform-/191142354304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c80f8dd80

 

They will give you measurably better vibration isolation than passive systems. The inherent stiffness is 50 times better than passive isolators, giving you less distortion. They are far better than legacy isolation systems which suffer from boom and tizz due to them connecting the vibrations to the components.

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Wow that thing is crazy and butt ugly - thats a bit ott even for me

 

I had something more like this is mind

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ellisdj wrote:

I am looking into isolating a few of my system components.

 

Not interested in little rubber balls of £15 - looking at proper solutions - I already know of stillpoints and black ravioli just seeing what else exists?

Bit of a red rag to a bull by the looks of it.

Perhaps performing a quick Google search might prove more fruitful. Smile

 

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ellisdj wrote:

I am looking into isolating a few of my system components.

 

Not interested in little rubber balls of £15 - looking at proper solutions - I already know of stillpoints and black ravioli just seeing what else exists?

Many electrical components change parameter when stressed. Resistors, capacitors, inductors can all be impacted, and depending on the circuit design can be microphonic and therefore sensitive to vibration. HOWEVER, these days with miniture surface mount components bonded to the circuit board, the effect is usually negligable.

Ellisdj, before you go spending good money after bad, there is a very simple test to see if you have components that are microphonic.  Turn the volume way up, and tap the box of the device you think may be a problem. If you hear something out of the speaker, then the device is microphonic and may benefit from isolation/coupling (depending on where the vibration is coming from).  If you can't hear anything out of the speaker, then the device isn't microphonic, wont be impacted by vibration,  and no amount of stillpoints or ravioli or whatever will make the slightest difference.

 

 

 

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andyjm wrote:

ellisdj wrote:

I am looking into isolating a few of my system components.

 

Not interested in little rubber balls of £15 - looking at proper solutions - I already know of stillpoints and black ravioli just seeing what else exists?

Many electrical components change parameter when stressed. Resistors, capacitors, inductors can all be impacted, and depending on the circuit design can be microphonic and therefore sensitive to vibration. HOWEVER, these days with miniture surface mount components bonded to the circuit board, the effect is usually negligable.

Ellisdj, before you go spending good money after bad, there is a very simple test to see if you have components that are microphonic.  Turn the volume way up, and tap the box of the device you think may be a problem. If you hear something out of the speaker, then the device is microphonic and may benefit from isolation/coupling (depending on where the vibration is coming from).  If you can't hear anything out of the speaker, then the device isn't microphonic, wont be impacted by vibration,  and no amount of stillpoints or ravioli or whatever will make the slightest difference.

 

 

 

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Thanks for that - but again not needed.

I dont need advice on whether i need isolation products or not - thanks anyway.  You obviously didnt read the earlier posts.

I am after company names that sell them - so far nothing of any help from anyone

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65VT65, UD7007, Graham Slee Cables, Isotek, XLO,

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