Slash's latest album was recorded to analogue tape - he's made a big deal about the differences that he hears when recording digitally or analogue, and has been very keen to pursue the analogue route, so vinyl should be best reproduction of what he wants us to hear?
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-"... since cables doesn't impact the sound anyway."
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Seems a popular thing at the moment - the Foo Fighters used analogue for their current album too, and Lenny Kravitz has always stuck to it as the hates digital.
Read somewhere today that Steve Jobs used to listen to his music on vinyl - there's a turn up for the books!
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As others have mentioned it's not a load of 'nonsense' as vinyl sales are on the up, almost year-on-year.
As a 22 year old student, I wouldn't say for me it's a 'fad', others, maybe...
For me, personally, I enjoy owning a record collection which has mostly old, but alot of new vinyl too.
I don't have much of a CD collection, as the majority of mine were stolen years back; so that put me off buying them completely. I think it's important to still own a 'tangible' music collection and definitely adds to the entire process and experience of music.
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I'm 19, and a lot of people my age (particularly these "hipster" types) do seem to be loving the idea of vinyl at the moment. Note "the idea" I don't think any of them buy it because they genuinely think it sounds better, or any other "logical" reasons. IMO it's because they prefer to be seen listening to vinyl than the actual music. I currently have a TT, though I don't even mention it in my sig, mainly because I think in the last year it's had maybe 10 hours use? It was a hand me down from my dad, along with some old records and MY GOD is it an effort to play (compared to sitting in a bed with airplay on a Macbook). Don't get me wrong, I think a lot of people are looking at upgrading a TT for all the right reasons. But I highly doubt many people with no records or TT would start buying the two given all the alternatives for playback nowadays unless they were trying to immpress someone.
Just my two pence. (deliberate)
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I would never have started a thread like this in the first place, if I'm not interested in something then I don't see the point in talking about it
So you're writing a reply to a thread that your not interested in to complain about a thread being started about a subject 'I'm not interested in'?
Anyway the reason I started this really was to get peoples views about vinyl recordings which have been taken from digital masters, not to debate the age-old CD vs vinyl question. I personally would have thought the best way to hear music was through hi res digital downloads from the original digital masters, but few people outside of audiophiles (a fair percentage of forum members) seem to be pushing for these. At the same time people seem to be saying vinyl is the only way to listen to music!
Yeah I read that about the Foo's before I heard the album, stuck it on with really high hopes of an awesome sounding album only to find it's been absolutely butchered beyond belief in the mastering process. I literally turned it off after about 40 seconds as its been compressed to hell and the noise level pushed so that everything sounds distorted even at low volumes. It's probably the most disappointed I've been with an album since Death Magnetic - when that came out I actually thought there was a fault with the disc it's that bad.
A friend of mine got the vinyl version of Wasting Light and kindly let me record it to my pc which I converted from WAV to FLAC and I gotta say it's an absolute BELTER, the CD just sounds like mush whereas the vinyl is full of warmth, detail and bags of punch, just how an analogue recording should sound.
Tbh it doesnt matter how an album is recorded, if the mastering engineer compresses the hell out of the recording then it's going to sound terrible.
By coincidence, an interesting article in today's Times quoting Neil Young from a conference yesterday about digital music recording.
He complains that the way music is recorded today - for digital ipod playback - is destroying how it sounds. Due to the extreme compression that is put on it at the recording/mastering stages.
You only need to play a 70s track and a 2000's track into a programme like garageband to see that the "soundwave" in a new track is just a compressed solid block of mush, with very few ups and downs.
Thanks for the article, will definitely have a read!
Or because either they KNOW it sounds better, or they prefer the sound...
I got in to vinyl because I was in to electronic music and wanted to buy white lable tracks so I didnt have to buy god awfull compilations anymore to get the music I liked, or wait ages in hope of a CD single.
I've been waiting to find out how the vinyl compares to the CD. Don't get me wrong, if the vinyl still had the same compression, I'd still prefer the vinyl due it's more natural sound and three dimensional soundstage, and to be fair, it's a rock album - I don't expect jazz levels of perfection. I bought the vinyl when it was released but I haven't had a chance to play it yet as my TT only turned up in December, and it'll be a while yet before it's set up and takes over my 2-channel listening.
I will admit, the opening track of Wasting Light is a little compressed, probably more so than the rest of the album, and there are bits here and there on particular songs that show up readily - Alandria is one of the most impressive tracks on the album to demo stuff like the Blades, even though it probably has the most blatant compression during the chorus. I can live with that as its a rock album, and mixed by Butch Vig, who also mixed Nirvana's Nevermind. I trust him.
Long may vinyl and Turntable sales increase, we may end up with British Turntable manufacturers leading the country out of recession. Well someone has too. :
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