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Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

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There seem to more turntables in hi-fi shops than I've seen in about 20 years. Now don't get me wrong, I can understand someone who has a large collection of vinyl or someone collecting rare records wanting to make the most of their investment by buying a decent deck. What I don't understand is the craze teens have for new vinyl -  a mate said recently that some kids believe that the only true way to listen to music is on record. Now records make sense when the original recording format is analogue, but with more and more music being recorded digitally I can only see records detracting from the original sound - why add in all kinds of mechanical problems into the delivery of music when they don't need to be present?

Am I the only one that thinks this way??

 

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RE: Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

Here we go again  banging head against wall

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RE: Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

The year-on-year sales of LPs have been increasing for the last six years (almost exponentially) as far as I can tell. (Over 40 percent increase last year for instance.) So I don't think it's a 'fad'.

Having said that, LP sales are still miniscule compared to CD and downloads.

To answer the question in your title...

No.

But I can't explain it, even as someone who loved playing LPs until just a couple of years ago.

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RE: Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

No, it's not a load of nonsense. It's actually a lot of fun. 

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I feel much the same as Chebby, having owned a good TT (20 years ago).

I have found a streaming solution that gives me enough pleasure that it quells the urge to return......though I can quite understand the seductive nature of vinyl (like a Siren luring you into a world of faffing).

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RE: Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

Probably a retro cool fad amongst the kids. Like Converse trainers.

Having recorded some of my LPs recently I think the perfect solution would be to digitise (at high res) a vinyl record and play it back on a digital system. You would lose out on the tactility and manual engagement of the record playing experience, but conversely, you could get that 'famous' analogue sound complete with hiss, crackles and pops plus all of the convenience of selecting your music at the touch of a button.  excellent!

 

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RE: Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

Vinyl impresses the ladies. 'Oh baby, my DAC's got asynchronus USB' does not work with the ladies. 

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Helmut80 wrote:

Vinyl impresses the ladies. 'Oh baby, my DAC's got asynchronus USB' does not work with the ladies. 

rolling on the floor laughing

....don't know why; it's got me going! ohhh sure

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tino wrote:

I think the perfect solution would be to digitise (at high res) a vinyl record and play it back on a digital system. You would lose out on the tactility and manual engagement of the record playing experience, but conversely, you could get that 'famous' analogue sound complete with hiss, crackles and pops plus all of the convenience of selecting your music at the touch of a button.  excellent!

Beck did that with Modern Guilt. The LP came with an MP3 download code - so far not so unusual... However, in this case the MP3s had been recorded from an actual vinyl pressing of album, using IIRC Pink Triangle TT and other assorted kit. I believe the 1st MP3 started with the sound of the needle dropping onto the run-in groove.

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   Find the missing word?  Digital to  - - - - - -   Converter. 

    Says it all really.   Smile

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RE: Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

Good point FATS 2828!

Microphones and speakers are analogue.

Having an analogue recording medium and play back device makes sense.

I do prefer my CD player though, but my CD player cost almost ten times what my turntable cost!

A couple of friends of mine have good Hi-Fi systems with turntables & CD players.

It is a different presentation to the sound, more natural and organic. It evokes a different emotional response when you listen to vinyl as opposed to CD or MP3.

Then again lots of these descriptives for Hi-Fi (natural, punchy ...) are objective.

Unless you already have done so, go and have a good listening session with similarly priced record deck verses CD player and find out what the fuss is about. Pick some well recorded vinyl and CD's.

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FATS 2828 wrote:

Find the missing word? Digital to - - - - - - Converter.
Says it all really. Smile

 

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CnoEvil wrote:

Helmut80 wrote:

Vinyl impresses the ladies. 'Oh baby, my DAC's got asynchronus USB' does not work with the ladies. 

rolling on the floor laughing ....don't know why; it's got me going! ohhh sure

 

It's an age thing dahling Smile

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tino wrote:
FATS 2828 wrote:
Find the missing word? Digital to - - - - - - Converter. Says it all really. Smile

 

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RE:Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

I think a lot depends on the quality of the recording and reproduction. 

A good vinyl recording sounds wonderful - natural / deep / warm / organic. I've done some like for like CD/vinyl comparisons and vinyl sounded nicer overall IMO and my wifes and friends opinion (I used them as a scientific control by not telling them when I was switching the amp between CD and vinyl). For example, Roberta Flack's Killing Me Softly sounds gorgeous with deep and detailed notes on the original vinyl, but the CD (on the same label) sounds stunted, flat and sterile in comparison. Dark Side of the Moon was a mixed bag with the vocals sounding distictly better on vinyl but the music generally sounded more defined on the CD.

I'm sure there are factors which have a bearing on doing such like for like comparisons and the quality of final output generally, i.e. the process of digitally remastering original analogue recordings. I also have some vinyl records that sound awful, very poor recordings.

Generally, I prefer the sound of acoustic music on vinyl and electronic based music on CD. I also like the ritual of listening to records, but that maybe its just me reminiscing

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RE: Is this vinyl revival thing just a load of nonsense?

For over 20 years now albums have been mastered in such a way as to make them sound louder and louder.  Fortunately the techniques that get applied to CD cannot be used to the same extent on Vinyl as the medium is'nt capable of producing anywhere near the same kind of noise levels.

As a result the Vinyl version of a modern album will generally sound vastly superior to its CD equivalent.  A good recent example is Red Hot Chilli Peppers' Stadium Arcadium.  The CD sounds mushy and quite distorted whereas the vinyl is well defined, punchy and above all clear as a bell.

I dare say there have been other posts about the "loudness war" as its been called but it doesnt suprise me that more and more people are digging out their vinyl cos they are fed up of butchered CD's.

I'm itching to get hold of Mastodon's The Hunter on Vinyl, should be epic!

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