The problem with Windows is that its stability depends on the software running on it - some people have virtually zero problems whereas others do. Microsoft have done a lot to address DLL version control but a great deal of users who use BOTH say that their Macs cause them less grief. I'm not an OS expert but have read that Mountain Lion's Unix-based origins does make it inherently more stable.
Apple also exert far more control over hardware & software (to the point of being control freaks) than Microsoft that may also impact on stability. However, digital music is fairly well understood so IF a stream is bit-perfect AND uninterrupted by other programs & services - it shouldn't matter! The problem with Windows are the IFs.
However, Apple do cockup from time to time - their optical output implementation can be very flakey - just ask John Westlake regarding compatibility with the M-DAC!
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MAIN: Apple TV2, Mac Mini & iTunes Match, CA Azur 751BD or Panasonic P42V20B into audiolab M-DAC, feeding a Primare A34.2 via XLRs, 2x 5m of Atlas Ascent 2 firing up Totem Arros.
ON THE HOOF: iPhone 5S/Sennheiser MM450.
Of course the Mac is better for music........!
it is particularly fine when used in conjunction with a good pair of active lodspeakers, such as.............
You beat me to it! It's weird how some brands attract an almost religious following.
I know, Mrs DDC has a rather indecent affection for products by Gucci and AMG.
Regarding Apple, I do not think I am, as yet a disciple, but I got my first Mac in 1989, I have never used a Windows PC and frankly, they frighten me a bit. In modern times I have has a 2006 white Macbook that has given great service and had three issues, 2 fixed FOC and out of 'normal' warrantee and a ram failure where my genius 'suggested' that I buy replacements from Crucial then made sure I knew how to fit it.
Also I bought Mrs DDC a 1st Generation Nano, which was recalled after about 4 years and replaced with the 5th gen touch, which is absoluely the best 'clip on' iPod ever. I'm a great believer in sticking with brand/retailers who treat me well, Apple have, simple as that.
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
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And we remember why we came.
I've been using Windows pcs (and before that MS-DOS pcs) since day one. I've never had a material problem and have installed them in thousands in a number of businesses (not an exagerration as I used to buy IT kit for one of the biggest accountancy practices in the UK). They work fine.
I've always been suspicious of the Apple thing because of the religious fervour of its supporters, just as I am suspicious of the AVI thing. I'm not anti-Apple as back in the day I wrote one of the first UK tax calculator programs for the Apple II and it worked fine.
I've got a PC with mine. I must be doing the AVI thing all wrong.
Seriously though, I own a PC because I like gaming on it. It's been totally 100% reliable for four years, it's never had a virus, it still runs as fast now as it did on the day I bought it and because it has a bit perfect digital output it will sound identical to a Mac. Don't get me wrong I like Mac's too, in some ways I even prefer them to PC's but there's no way they will sound any different from the digital output unless you've been fiddling with the audio settings somewhere.
PC > AVI Neutron Five 2.1
Sony NWZ-A847 64GB Walkman > Westone UM3x
People's lack of technical knowledge in these forums is frightening.
Don't let a little thing like having no technical knowledge stop you from posting. It's all about quantity over quality here (as The_Lhc would say).
YES, Mac are better for music UNLESS you have a custom built high end desktop computer. Mac and high end desktop computers are built using high quality computer parts, such as JAPANESE-made capacitors. The quality of the capacitors used in motherboards affects the sound the most. My motherboard uses tantalum capacitors, which are best capacitors you can get for a motherboard and there is significant improvement in sound over my rubbish Dell laptop. So if want the best sound without blowing $$$ on a new Mac, I suggest you try to build a desktop using a high quality motherboard with tantalum or Japanese capacitors and a SSD hard drive for playback.
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This. And, to the OP - No, and certainly not in the way your friend says.
Formerly known as al7478...
HC: Panasonic PXP 42 V20; Panasonic DMP BD35; Humax Foxsat-HDR
Music: Optical out from Asus P7H55-M Motherboard into AVI ADM 9.1 speakers.
"Music will provide the light you cannot resist"
Can't see it makes much difference imo. And I'm a Mac user. It's all about picking the platform you're happiest using and the one which runs the apps you want to use. I use iTunes and BitPerfect which does more or less what I want, so Mac for me. YMMV.
Main system: Mac Mini 2011 > HRT II+ DAC • Cyrus 2 & PSX • Cyrus tuner • MS 10i speakers [on loan]
Also cluttering-up the place: Thorens TD160 (no cart) • Marantz CD 63 mkII KI & PM66 KI • Technics SL-P777 • Nakamichi DR-1
Marantz M-CR603 + AirPlay • Rega R3 loudspeakers • iPhone 5 • iMac • Apple Airport Extreme 802.11n • Apple iPad Mini • Panasonic TX-L32D25B • Sony BDP-S390 • Ruark Audio R1 Deluxe • Humax HDR-Fox T2
To be fair my computer is an expensive custom build using good quality components that were assembled by Scan computers. It's a world apart from the cheap office computers that you get from the likes of Dell.
If you're using a computers analogue output the sound quality can vary considerably depending on the quality of the motherboard/soundcard used. But nevertheless, even a cheap office PC will sound identical to an Apple computer provided you're using a bit perfect digital output into an external DAC.
Of course Mac is no better. The hardware inside is the same.
As has been mentioned by Dave75, people never compare like with like.
Yes, the Avi spokesperson and apple fanboy/obsessive salesman will tell you that Apple is best, but then he compares a woefully underpowered old XP machine with a Macbook.
Windows is 100% fine with music. Some machines will not be as good as others...BECAUSE WINDOWS IS ONLY THE OS!!! Many manufaturers make machines that come preloaded with Windows, some will be much better than others.
I have a 10 year old Dell XPS that is still running but underpowered for me (although it beats most Atom based netbooks including my own HP Envy X2 hybrid) in terms of power.
I have an Asus G73 which will run most modern games just fine (it's about 3 yrs old now)
My desktop is ancient, but has had lots of cosmetic surgery. (upgrades)
My work Lenovo is the dogs danglies, latest notebook i7, Windows 8 and 32 GB ram.
All play music just great!
What Apple give you is "only" the high end. ie choose a high end Windows machine and for less money, it will be qually good...
And Windows, comtrary to popular myth does NOT mess with the sound IF YOU ONLY HAVE MUSIC playing...Yes, if you choose to have 2, 3 or more sources of sound, then Windows will have to deal with that, but switch off all other apps that create sound, switch off system sounds, and ho-hum, the sound is pure...no need for rip-off apps that cost an arm and a leg. Foobar, or even Winamp will play bit-perfect, no problem.
And if you do have a decent PC/laptop, it will almost certainly have optical out anyway!
And, actually, I now prefer W8 to W7. I like it, even on non-touch. Problem is for many is it is too different and bends brains.
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